Daewoo Gentra or Renault Logan - which car is better? Two generations of Renault Logan, Chevrolet Cobalt, Daewoo Gentra - which is better? Conceptual differences in the interior design.

Third-generation Nexia appeared in Russia! Will she improve her position, show comparison test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan. Nexia now performs under the name Ravon and on the Chevrolet Aveo platform.

Video test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan below, specifications at the end of the article.

Please vote by expressing your sympathy for the Ravon Nexia R3 and Renault Logan - move the MPS Index cursor on the scale that we offer at the beginning and at the end of the article.

Most recently, we first saw the Ravon Nexia R3 on. And now one of the cars that were on the stand is on our test! The model replaced the very popular, but hopelessly outdated Nexia of the previous generation. It’s a pity that Ravon, although an exhibition sample, immediately loses in color to the elegant blue Renault Logan, and it gets more dirty on the road.

Ravon Nexia R3: Back of Aveo sedan combined with a nose from a hatchback of the same model - GM Uzbekistan has already done a similar trick with the Gentra model, built on the basis of the Chevrolet Lacetti. Fog lights and alloy wheels on the Nexia R3 are original.

The ancient Opel Cadet platform from the 80s is finally put to rest - at the heart of the new generation Nexia R3 body from Chevrolet Aveo T250, sold in the mid to late 2000s. Daewoo and Chevrolet badges on Uzbek-made cars are also a thing of the past - now GM Uzbekistan models are sold in Russia under the Ravon brand. The new brand appeared a year ago and has already been tried on the Gentra sedan and compact hatchback R2.

The announced prices for the Ravon Nexia R3 are from 419 to 569 thousand rubles, three trim levels are available to choose from. The test car is the most expensive, in the Elegant version and with a gun.

The rival of Ravon, the second generation, needs no introduction - the demand for the super popular budget sedan speaks for itself, so it will perfectly suit us as a guide. Logan is built on the B0 platform of about the same age as the Nexia R3. In 2014, after modernization, the production of Logan was launched at AvtoVAZ.

The cost of this Renault Logan in the Privelege configuration with a winter option package, an 82 hp engine. and robotic transmission - 636 thousand rubles.

Ravon Nexia R3 Vs Renault Logan 2

Ravon Nexia R3 in his dacha element.

Salon

This time, we are giving away edible nuts for victories in challenges - one of them can be obtained for the interior, the trunk will be evaluated separately.

Car interiors contrast strongly in style. In Ravona, it is deliberately Asian: instrument arrows and old-fashioned electronic clocks were inherited from Aveo, and the two-tone color scheme is the result of the work of Uzbek designers. You perceive carbon inserts with irony, but in general, the quality of plastic for a budget model is good. Unfortunately, in our climate, a bright interior gets dirty instantly. However, a more practical interior design in dark colors is also available for the model, albeit discreet.

The interior of the Nexia R3 seems to take us from a dank Moscow autumn to sunny Uzbekistan. It warms up, by the way, quite quickly, but the Russians will miss the heated seats - so far it is not even in the "maximum speed".

Logan inside looks simple and concise - traces of savings on every detail, as on the first generation of the model, are no longer evident, but there is nothing to admire either. The atmosphere of despondency is somewhat brightened up by the presence of a few buttons - in this rather rich configuration there are rear power windows and cruise control.

Simple and logical at first glance, Logan's interior sometimes throws tricks - the knob on the radio is actually responsible not for the volume, but for the frequency, the power window control buttons are scattered around the cabin: the front ones are in the doors, the rear ones are on the center console.

A blind test will help evaluate ergonomics from the driver's point of view - we blindfold one of us and sit down, alternating, in cars. Let's check how convenient it is to tune in and drive a short distance "by touch". They rode, of course, on a huge wide platform. The sensations of drivers are conveyed very well by the video (see at the beginning and at the end of the article). Both strongly deviated from the gate at the finish line, but according to them, they did not feel any inconvenience in manipulating the controls.

While Ravon and Logan go head to head through the cabin, everything will be decided by the back row. There is enough space for two in both cars, but three will have to make room. Logan is still more spacious in the legs, and, again, more practical in terms of materials. A few millimeters here he breaks ahead and his driver eats one tasty nut.

The interior of such a light, loose and thin fabric looks beautiful, with the caveat that the car is new or just from dry cleaning, and you look at it from the side.

Logan's back row is the realm of practicality. Sitting comfortably, the materials are simple and not easily soiled.

The "Salon" task is won by Renault Logan, 1:0 in his favor.

Ground clearance

Ground clearance is traditionally checked with a tire height of 200 mm. Renault Logan started confidently, but there was not enough height under the rear beam - the tire remained under the bottom. Nexia R3 did not have enough at all for a couple of centimeters under the bumper skirt - no chance to overcome the "barrier". Formally, the difference in ground clearance is minimal, but let's not forget that Logan has engine protection in the basic version, while Ravone does not offer factory protection at all. Our test car can be forgiven - it can be said to be an exhibition car, but if you put protection at the dealer, the clearance will most likely become lower. Therefore, in this nomination, the victory for Renault Logan, its driver, is reinforced by one more nut. Maybe this will help him in the next two dynamic exercises.

On Ravon without protection engine compartment it's scary to climb into the wilds, but at least the high curbs do not threaten the bumper.

Already 2:0 in favor of Renault Logan.

traffic light start

We tried to pick up cars as close as possible in price, so our Renault Logan turned out to be in the least dynamic version - with an 8-valve Romanian K7M engine with 1.6 liters and 82 hp. and a 5-speed Spanish-made Easy-R robot. In normal mode, it makes more noise than it accelerates, to say nothing of some kind of competition. Although the gearbox should be given credit - it shifts faster and, unlike it, does not burn the clutch in vain.

Three engine options are installed on the second generation of Logan - for 82, 102 or 113 hp, all 1.6-liter. Available transmissions are 5-speed manual, 4-speed classic automatic and 5-speed robot.

Against this background, the Nexia R3 looks like a favorite: there is a completely modern 1.5-liter 16-valve engine with 105 hp. with variable intake phases and a timing chain drive, paired with a 6-speed automatic. The combination is already familiar from the Chevrolet Cobalt, which was sold for some time on Russian market – serious problems with these units was not. According to subjective feelings light car accelerates quite briskly — there is enough dynamics in the stream.

The only engine available for the Nexia R3 is the 1.5-liter S-TEC III with 105 hp. Gearboxes to choose from - 5-speed manual or 6-speed automatic.

The start from the spot was without surprises - Ravon confidently went ahead. If Renault Logan had a 102-horsepower 16-valve engine and a 4-speed automatic, it could have had a chance, but this version is 50,000 rubles more expensive than ours, and the cost difference with Ravon would have gone beyond reasonable limits. So the nut for acceleration is rightly awarded to a car from Uzbekistan.

The motor on the Nexia R3 is more powerful and more modern than on the Logan, and the machine is quicker. With a conventional machine gun and a 16-valve Renault would cost 100 thousand more than Ravon, in the same trim levels as ours.

Ravon Nexia R3 wins back one nut, but the score remains in favor of Renault Logan: 1:2

snake

On the snake, the result is no longer so unambiguous - Ravon rolls more both visually and in sensations, but his time is better: 28.36 s versus 29.57 for Reno. Again the robot is to blame? One way or another, and the driver of Ravon was refreshed with one more nut.

On Ravona, the stabilization system is available in the “base”, while it can be freely turned off.

For Logan, a stabilization system is available as an option. On this instance, only ABS will help the driver.

After the snake, the score was evened - 2:2.

Football

The traditional game of football this time will count: let's evaluate how comfortable the cars are when maneuvering. Renault Logan in our version does not have a stabilization system, so it allows you to use the handbrake, while Ravon stops attempts to misbehave even with the electronics turned off. If we talk about more important things in normal operation, then Logan has a heavy steering wheel at low speeds and it is inconvenient to switch the gearbox back and forth. Therefore, here we give victory to Ravon Nexia.

Ravon Nexia R3 takes the lead after dynamic tasks: 3:2

Having left the closed area, they caught a “nail”, but this did not knock Ravon out of the upcoming rut.

Rare case - full size spare wheel really came in handy during the test. The tire pressure sensor worked as it should - it turned on the malfunction lamp almost immediately after the puncture and went out when the repaired regular wheel returned to its place.

Trunk

Both cars claim to be universal, so the volume of the trunk is of great importance for the buyer. Having practiced with cubes according to the methodology of the magazine "Behind the Wheel", we get a result of 432 liters for Renault Logan and 372 liters for Ravon. In both cars, the usable volume is somewhat eaten up by loops. Nexia also has other drawbacks: the trunk lid closes with effort, and the lock cylinder is closed by a frame for the number. Let's hope both problems are fixed.

Renault Logan equalizes the score after the trunk - 3:3.

The trunk volume of the Nexia R3, according to our measurements, is 372 liters. Smaller than Logan, but there is a rubber mat.

Due to the depth, Renault's cargo compartment was made huge - 432 liters of usable volume.

Priming

As you can see, Ravon is already giving way.

In order for the test to be effective, we will add one more test - let's see how the suspension works on bad roads. We won’t climb on serious off-road: we have enough broken asphalt and a rolled primer - many “state employees” have to work just in such conditions. At first glance, both cars swallow well both small things and large pits. But Ravon has a hard ass on serious irregularities, and the energy intensity is slightly less compared to Logan. The winning golden nut is eaten by the Renault Logan.

Test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan wins the Frenchman from Tolyatti - 3:4

The suspensions of both cars are well prepared for Russian roads. rear wheels Ravona harshly pass speed bumps, there is not enough soundproofing of the arches, but these are nit-picking.

And yet Ravon Nexia R3 is very good. At a cost of 569,000 rubles, it corresponds to Logan with a less powerful engine, and this is maximum equipment. Skip the passenger airbag (we don't recommend), power rear windows and alloy wheels- save another 50 thousand. Therefore, if Ravon keeps the price, the model will be competitive and will not give up its positions, rather they can start to let it go ahead.

The manufacturer has yet to equip the Russian version with several options - seat heating, engine protection, central locking control from the key. It should be noted that the employees of the Russian representative office of the Uzbek Automobile Plant were interested in our test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan and developments in terms of the shortcomings of their novelty, which means they will not miss their chances to raise the popularity of Uzbek cars.

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Video test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan, specifications below.

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It's just fun to feel how the pillow changes the angle of inclination, and not the usual move up and down. However, so was the predecessor.

Oh, there's also a lumbar support adjustment! In the maximum position, it turned out to be quite dense. Having adjusted the steering wheel hub not only for the angle of inclination, but also for the reach, I look around.

The salon does not press on the shoulders, but it is cramped in the head area - tall drivers often encounter this in cars with a sunroof. It feels like the roof is noticeably higher here. This is confirmed by the numbers: And for this I forgive the seat with practical fabric upholstery for a stool fit and the lack of a lumbar support.

I do not agree with the location of the horn button at the end of the steering column switch, the power window buttons on the center console, the mirror adjustment joystick on the floor tunnel. In winter, the engine warms up quickly and heats the interior in one fell swoop.

Excellent light at night, you can see the road perfectly. In short, a car for ordinary people, the language does not dare to call a jig, because it is much better than the good old jig, but the same simple and huge potential for creativity No cons, I did not find them.

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I am personally pleased that I chose him, I do not regret anything, not a single gram. There was not a single one. The updated grille, front bumper and hood shape are the main changes from the base model.

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Feelings are familiar to people who have ridden the Lacetti. Unfamiliar only block multimedia system and the process of adjusting the seat.

There was a setting for lumbar support.

Remember the joke about Togliatti - they say, a cursed place: whatever you collect, all Zhiguli turn out? Attention, drum roll: the asphalt of the Dmitrovsky training ground is called new Renault Logan Togliatti assembly! How much better is it than the previous Logan, which is still being made at Moscow Avtoframos? And for a side dish - two sedans at a similar price: Chevrolet Cobalt and Daewoo Gentra. Although who will be a vegetable side dish here, and who will be the main dish?

Heating windshield, climate control, multimedia system... Grab the keyed door handle, sit in the two-tone interior of the top version of Lux Privilege - and it seems that this is no longer Logan!

True, the smell in the cabin is the same, the door seals have remained single, the ceiling of the cabin lighting is still alone, the signature backlash of the driver's seat in the skid has been lovingly preserved - fortunately, the back has become higher and now does not rest against the shoulder blades. The glove box is more spacious, there are a little more trays for small things. But you sit behind the wheel as before with strongly bent legs - there was no adjustment for reach.

The back is spacious, and the large trunk has become even larger! We measured the volumes with plastic balls - and if the old Logan included 544 "ball" liters, then the new one already has 601!

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The power unit for both Logans is the same: the most powerful 16-valve 1.6 (102 hp) in the range and a five-speed “mechanics”. idle they walk, the pedals and the gear lever “itch” from vibrations ... But new car gas pedal not cable drive, and "electronic". Result? Imagine, in this sense, the old Logan is better - it is more responsive!

Apparently, the French did not get into the settings of the electronic accelerator. Not only is the response difficult to predict, but there was also a failure during overclocking with low speed- at first, the motor seems to choke, as if the accelerator pump had broken in the carburetor. And since the clutch pedal is still lightweight and uninformative, it is even more difficult to get under way on the new Logan than on the old one.

But overclocking, overclocking is better? After all, the new sedan has a transmission with a “shorter” main gear - 4.5:1 against 4.21:1. Theoretically, this should improve elasticity, that is, the ability to accelerate within one gear. We look at the results of our measurements - and ... M-yes. In fourth and fifth gears, the new Logan is slightly more elastic, but only for a fraction of a second. On the third, when accelerating from 60 to 100 km / h, there is no gain at all. And when starting from zero to a hundred, the new Logan gets as much as a second and a half slower than the old one: 13.5 s instead of 12.0 s. Well, up to 150 km / h, acceleration is completely extended by as much as 5.4 seconds.

Let's look at the advantages and disadvantages of the two rivals. Let's try to identify the strengths and weak sides opposing vehicles. Although we will immediately say that this is just a statement of well-known facts.

Deciding which of the cars is the most reliable, which one to buy, is the exclusive right of potential buyers.

Exterior

If we look at both cars in profile, they have a lot in common .. Gentra has only the front in the original form. The front bumper with grille looks good. There is nothing to note about the innovations in the "clothes" of "Logan". All the same "macintosh" reystaling 2009. The car can only boast of collectible disks "winter-summer 2013".

Interior

Comparing the interior of the cars, we note the very modest upholstery (materials) of the Daewoo. But a better build quality than the competitor. For equipment, the first place is given to Daewoo. In this component, Logan is clearly lagging behind.

Salon "Daewoo" in restrained colors. The front panel is decorated with plastic under "tree". Salon is spacious. Only tall passengers will not be comfortable. Not enough height. The competitor's interior is 55 mm higher. Salon of the French without unnecessary pathos and frills. Build quality. The front panel is assembled with a plus sign.

Seat adjustment for both "subjects" is almost at the same level. Well, maybe the seats of the Uzbek car are regulated a little longer. The Gentra's mirrors are better adjusted than the Renault's. The fact is that the Renault Logan mirror adjustment joystick is disguised on the central tunnel. As for the trunk. Here the forces are approximately equal. Competitors "laid" full-size spare wheels in the cargo compartment. Although Renault will have a slightly larger trunk.

Components and assemblies of a car

Sixteen valve power unit"Logan" works better on "low". More fun at medium speeds. Accelerating to 60 km / h, it wins 1.3 seconds from the Uzbeks. Having accelerated to 100 km / h, the gap is 2.1 seconds. It seems a trifle, but in urban conditions, Renault looks more solid.

Gentra bounced back in terms of speed. The maximum speed is increased by 9.1 km/h. brakes: Almost no difference. Daewoo has a slight advantage. Maybe the stopping distance is shorter due to installed tires"Conti Premium Contact 2"?

Driving performance cars are the same. Both cars "shake" on potholes and pits. Passengers of "Renault" feel a little less shaking. But in this issue we applaud "Gentre"! Why, you ask? How! The French have always been considered a model in terms of "smoothing out" defects pavement! And here they are almost caught up. Both "subjects" do not differ in reactivity and agility. Auto reliable, predictable. Well, it's just not interesting! Maybe that's how it should be? Perhaps reliability is the main core of people's sedans?

So, "Daewoo Gentra" - do not hold ambitions! With all his might, he tries nothing to be inferior to a competing company: neither in price nor in quality. Daewoo attracts with decent equipment. What is positive about Logan? Primarily: spacious salon and ground clearance. It is these two indicators that allow you to get ahead of your competitor. Maybe not by much, but still!

Fans " Daewoo "They may object: after all, those who wish to purchase a car with automatic transmission can be in the basic configuration. That's a plus, they say. Indeed, the French are lagging behind here. After all, they have cars with automatic transmission in complete models. Summarizing, we can say that the prospects for Daewoo Gentra are very good.

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ALL THE FACES YOU KNOW?

Both cars are almost native in profile. But the Gentra's front end was changed: the headlights are similar to those put on the Lacetti hatchback. Because of them, they slightly changed the shape of the hood, updated the front bumper and grille. Behind from the new - only nameplates. "Logan" has not been changed since the restyling of 2009: of the updates, only wheel disks collections "winter/summer-2013".

Inside the Gentra, everything is also familiar. The only differences are in the block of the multimedia system and the emblem on the steering wheel. It took a little longer than usual to adjust the seat. It's just fun to feel how the pillow changes the angle of inclination, and not the usual move up and down. However, so was the predecessor. Oh, there's also a lumbar support adjustment! In the maximum position, it turned out to be quite dense.

Having adjusted the steering wheel hub (not only in terms of tilt, but also in reach), I look around. The salon is assembled neatly and, according to the eastern tradition, is not devoid of decor - the Uzbeks could not resist and decorated the front panel and doors with a plastic “tree”. The salon does not press on the shoulders, but it is cramped in the head area - tall drivers often encounter this in cars with a sunroof.

Whether business "Logan"! It feels like the roof is noticeably higher here. This is confirmed by the figures: from the pillow to the ceiling 1010 mm - 55 mm more than the competitor. And for this I forgive the seat with a practical fabric upholstery for a stool fit and the absence of a lumbar support. And you can’t pull the steering wheel towards you, as in the Gentra: the adjustment is only for the angle of inclination. I do not agree with the location of the horn button at the end of the steering column switch, the power window buttons on the center console, the mirror adjustment joystick on the floor tunnel. However, it's all a matter of habit.

Climate controls in cars are traditional; even a child can figure out the buttons and knobs. But in Gentra, this part of the center console looks more interesting. But "Logan" takes an excellent review: a large rear glass and large mirrors allow you to easily control everything that happens behind the stern.

LOOK BACK

The doors opened wide, inviting them to sit on the sofa. Interestingly, the distance from the pillow to the ceiling is the same for competitors, but at the same time, Logan and Gentra are opposites. The Renault has a lot of space in the head and shoulder area, while the Daewoo is a bit cramped, and the sloping roof line visually compresses the interior.

But in the "Gentra" there is more space in the knees and the seat is not like that of the opponent - ergonomic, with a good armrest. And yes, the back is foldable. This allows you to transport long lengths, which Logan, with its tightly screwed rear sofa, never dreamed of. True, the Renault trunk is still larger, and the opening is wider.

Under the floor of the cargo compartment of both, full-size spares are not superfluous in our conditions. However, only the French saved on the inner upholstery of the lid ... sorry, the Russians, which automatically does honor to the Koreans ... that is, the Uzbeks.

MOVEMENT - LIFE

Almost all the bananas have already been cut from the palm tree, so furiously these two are fighting for victory. It looks like it will go to the one whose driving performance better.

I start the Gentra engine that meets Euro-5 standards (J200-B15D was assembled in Uzbekistan and is somewhat different from the Chevrolet-Cobalt unit) and pour into the city crowd. From the bottom, the engine picks up confidently, and the clutch pedal is located so that the knee does not start to whine after an hour of twitching in metropolitan traffic. But on the highway after 4000 rpm, the engine turns sour.

Sixteen-valve "Logan" is even more fun on the bottoms and faster at medium speeds. When accelerating to 60 km / h, it outperforms the competitor by 1.3 s, and at 100 km / h it breaks away already by 2.1 s. It seems to be not so much, but in the city I liked Renault more. Gentra bounced back top speed(9.1 km/h more) and informative brakes. The effort on the pedals is a little clearer, and this "slightly" pulled sympathy. Reasons for the slight difference in stopping distance in favor of "Daewoo" lie, in our opinion, in the tires: on the "Gentra" is "ContiPremiumContact 2", on the "Logan" - "Amtel-Planet DC".

In terms of smoothness, the models are similar. They shake about the same on potholes. Well, Renault, maybe a little less. And this is an indisputable compliment to the Gentra, because the Logan has deservedly become the standard in terms of smoothing out road defects. Controllability? Both machines do not know what excitement is. Reliable and predictable, but nothing more. So it should be with people's sedans.

And in terms of acoustic comfort, the Daewoo takes the lead: during acceleration and cruising 80 km / h it is noticeably quieter. In response, the unbending "Logan" takes out a joker - standard engine protection and 155 mm of ground clearance. "Gentre" with its bare belly and 140 mm distance to the ground has nothing to cover here.

So, Gentra is an ambitious project. He tries not to give in to his opponent either in price or in quality. Daewoo attracts with rich equipment. The main advantages of Logan are high ground clearance and a spacious interior. They allowed Renault to get ahead of the opponent a little. But "Gentru" even in the database can be ordered with an "automatic", while the "automatic" "Logan" is only in the complete set. So, the prospects for a newcomer are very good!

OWNER'S OPINION

Denis KORESHKOV

"Daewoo Gentra" (mileage 3400 km)

Initially, I sought to find a more or less universal car: inexpensive, comfortable, suitable for both family needs and commuting. Bought "Gentra" with mechanical box gears in the "Optimum Plus" configuration, these expectations, in general, met. Although there are little things that could be eliminated. For example, there is nowhere to attach a gas tank cap, which has neither a holder nor a hanger.

Residents of big cities will certainly prefer the version with automatic transmission, I'm used to the "mechanics". In general, I will characterize the movement on the Gentra as measured: the engine is clearly designed for a calm driving style. But after running in, even in the city and in traffic jams, the sedan consumes 8.5–8.7 liters of gasoline per 100 km. The car is still new, and I have not encountered the service. I hope that I will not be disappointed in this matter.