Hello! I have owned this car for several months, I have done 12,000 runs both in the city and on the highway. I will briefly describe the history of the acquisition, the pros / cons, everything is subjective, but without embellishment. And so, let's go!
I noticed that many Gentry owners change from Nexia. I was no exception. Apparently this trend is due to the fact that after Nexia they cease to be afraid of the Deo brand :-) Nexia is still with me, but I will adapt it to work while it is in the parking lot.
Nexia rots, it's inevitable. So mine all started to crumble along the bottom, it was also beaten in the hood, in the fender, in the door ... The engine poisons oil, antifreeze flows somewhere, there are almost no brakes ... But this is Nexia - she drives in any condition, checked for years! It was decided to purchase another car. Considered many options, b / y. I wanted a more spacious car, with air conditioning, pillows, power windows at least. Considered options - Elantra, Octavia - used. They didn’t find anything alive on the used market. Even after one owner cars ushatany in the trash. Then I went to the Ravon salon, by chance, of course. Gentry was brought there in 2014. at a normal discount. After all the negotiations in the family, we decided to take the new Gentra. Why? Here is the answer:
- New car on a guarantee of 3 years, though 2014 onwards;
- Spacious, C-class;
- Normal 6-speed automatic with the ability to manually control gears;
- Disc brakes in a circle;
- Independent rear multi-link suspension;
- All ESP;
- Classic power steering;
- Armrest;
- Cooled "glove box" with illumination;
- Driver's seat with height adjustment in 2 positions (I don't know how to write correctly, there are 2 lamb on the side);
- Soft plastic almost everywhere;
- Galvanized body;
- Electric mirrors with electric folding and heating;
- Timing belt chain;
- A time-tested car with affordable spare parts (Lacetti);
- Price 499 tr. for all this good :)
Offhand, that for 499 tr. close to these characteristics? Nifiga.
What was not in this configuration: ABS (I don’t suffer from lack at all), seat warmer (can be delivered if necessary), radio tape recorder (wretched factory, so I would change it anyway), sunroof (what the heck is needed in Russia), plastic under wood (....).
About the shortcomings that were identified and partially eliminated: Springs jumped out in the back of the driver's seat (removed under warranty), shitty door adjustment (removed under warranty), air conditioning was not filled after the cabin (removed under warranty), the mirror on the driver's side came loose (removed under warranty). warranty), the DRL lamp burned out (closer to 11,000 km, replacement - 25 rubles lamp, 80 work), crooked wiper holder on the passenger side (replaced under warranty). In my instance on windshield slight distortion - not a warranty case. Not annoying, because not at eye level, but still. Some kind of quiet howling at the beginning of the movement of roofing felts from the box, or from something else, I don’t know how to accurately describe it. Dealer said everything is fine, so I don't know. Doesn't bother at all. There is no BC, but I do not suffer, I have never had it)
I haven’t finished anything in the car yet, but what do I want: alarm with a / z, noise of arches, crankcase protection, anti-corrosion treatment, seat covers, 2-din android car radio with a rear view camera (who will recommend what)?
I installed the trunk on top, it is necessary for work. It looks quite harmonious in my opinion (the wife categorically rejects the whole body)))
The behavior of the car is quite predictable, but on the highway over 120 km / h the car starts to scour a little, especially with a strong side wind. Rear suspension a bit stiff in feel. There is a mini-glove box to the left of the driver, there are niches in the doors, which is convenient.
There were no mistakes on my part:
1) a little "shuttered" the rear fender and the door (the officials said it would cost polishing)
2) The bumper is also slightly "scrambled" (a little bit of plastic is pokotsan), there for painting.
In general, absolutely nothing critical, iron has not reached anywhere))
Rust on cars that were produced in Uzbekistan at the GM Uzbekistan plant manifests itself after several years of operation of the previous generation of cars, and other models. Potentially susceptible to metal corrosion due to powerful reagents on the roads of Russia.
Will new Ravon cars rust? After all, Nexia, Gentra, P2 and P4 are assembled at the same plant in Uzbekistan?
According to the press service of the manufacturer's plant, they carried out the reconstruction and replacement of equipment at the plant, which made it possible to improve technological processes painting. Now modern technologies and processes are used that can significantly improve the quality paintwork Ravon cars. In terms of process, dust tunnels have been introduced at the plant, body parts are now thoroughly cleaned, and the most basic processes are carried out with a high level of automation.
The composition of the body coloring of all Ravon models
Consists according to infographics of such components as:
- Varnish (40-50 microns)
- Enamel (10-15 microns)
- Electrostatic primer (30-40 microns)
- Soil cathophoresis (18-32 microns)
- Protective metal layer “Under coat GVH-170 UBC” (minimum 500 µm)
At the same time, the thickness of the protective material layer of the bottom and lower sidewall of Ravon PVC Polyvinyl Chloride abrasion resistant coating sealer is at least 300 microns.
Body galvanization
On the official website ravon.ru quite often visitors ask this question, to which they receive an answer with approximately the following content:
“The stamping of body parts is made from a special steel sheet with an anti-corrosion coating. New technology. Not galvanized. Thanks for reaching out.”
Moreover, it is specified in the same place that the cars come with a guarantee of three per body, the manufacturer undertakes to produce free repair work body elements that were damaged due to corrosion within 3 years, however, with the proviso that the car was used in normal conditions, as well as regular checks and maintenance were carried out in deadlines from the service book. If, in the service book, all the work has documentary evidence, but nevertheless corrosion appeared due to manufacturing defects, and it began precisely under the paintwork layer, which subsequently led to through damage.
Outcome. As you can see, the manufacturer is aware of the problems of past generations of cars. And he took all the necessary steps to improve the anti-corrosion properties of body parts. Of course, looking ahead, it is difficult to say what will happen in 5-7 years of operation, but in our opinion, in the next 3-5 years we will not see these cars with rust on the body.
Many potential users of Ravon cars, for example, on the forums in the reviews of the Ravon R3 mechanics, have unflattering, to put it mildly, statements about their body coatings and the reliability of anti-corrosion protection.
Like, the bodies “bloom” en masse, and, as expected, in the spring, since Russian services highways in winter, strong reagents are used.
In this review, an attempt was made to collect topical questions to the representative of the Uzbek automobile plant in Russia, his answers, as well as some expert explanatory comments.
Question. Interestingly, what about the corrosion resistance of Ravon body parts? Is the P2 body galvanized? Is there a manufacturer's warranty regarding perforation corrosion?
Answer. I'll start, if I may, with the last question. Our concern undertakes to carry out free work to restore the coating of body elements that are damaged by corrosion for a period of three years after the purchase of the car. In other words, we provide a three-year warranty.
However, it is given in those cases when the operation of the car is carried out under normal conditions, if there are marks in the Service book about both checks and technical services within the time specified by our factory. In this case, corrosion should be the result of a factory defect. In other words, when the destruction of the metal in the form of through damage occurred under the coating layer.
As for the answer to the first question about galvanizing the body, our concern uses the stamping of body parts from special metal, the sheets of which have a modern anti-corrosion coating. This is a completely new and very effective technology. However, it is not such that it could be called galvanized.
Question. The first Ravon models had drawbacks related to the protection of body parts. What has the concern done to eliminate these shortcomings in the release of subsequent models? In particular, is the Ravon R3 body galvanized or not?
Answer. It is in the tradition of the management of our concern to respond sensitively and promptly to the comments and claims of our customers. Moreover, we are grateful to them for this. The plant carried out renovation measures in the field of body parts coating.
Now the coating has four protective layers:
- for corrosion protection, a technology such as catopheresis primer is used;
- to protect body elements from electrostatic damage, a special primer is used;
- the next protective layer that is applied to the body is enamel. It is the main color for the body;
- and varnish, which protects the enamel and gives body parts a polished surface.
Thus, the complex coating of the body has sufficient capabilities for its reliable anti-corrosion protection without galvanizing.
Expert commentary. As for the catopheresis coating, this technology has long been used abroad and relatively recently in the domestic auto industry, in particular on the Lada Grant and Kalina.
Catopheresis is an electrolytic reaction accompanied by physical and chemical processes. In this case, the body part is immersed in the container, connecting the anode to the part, and the cathode to the walls of the container. In the process of electrolysis, a special primer is deposited on the parts and it is fixed.
The procedure for implementing catopheresis technology is as follows:
- first, the surface of body parts is cleaned from oxides;
- remove fatty contaminants;
- metal surfaces are activated;
- immersion is carried out in a container where catopheresis occurs;
- body parts are rinsed after catopheresis;
- drying is carried out in special thermal chambers.
After that, the body parts are subjected to the application of the remaining layers of the coating.
Question. Is the body galvanized Ravon R4?
Answer. Thanks for the question. The concern pays great attention to the anti-corrosion protection of car bodies, and the line of the P4 model is no exception. The features of the new technology of body protection, which was recently introduced by our plant, is that the steel sheet from which the body is stamped has a special anti-corrosion coating. Although it is not related to galvanizing, it is no less effective than zinc coating of metal.
To specify the process of protection, the concern has introduced special tunnel sections to protect body parts from dust, they are thoroughly cleaned of various contaminants, catopheresis and protective coatings are automated.
Hello. To my previous question "Why does the Ravon Nexia R3 have no seal between the right front fender and load-bearing body? On the left is, on the right is not" I received this answer: "... This is design feature car. Thank you for contacting." - it was clear even without this answer, but I would like to know for what purpose this was done?
Answer
Good afternoon, Konstantin Pavlovich. This seal is not provided by the manufacturer's designers. The employees of the plant do not indicate the reasons. Thank you for your feedback.
Kovalenko Konstantin Pavlovich
- 28/10/2019
- Smolensk
Hello. Why does the Ravon Nexia R3 have no seal between the right front fender and the load-bearing body? Left is, right is not.
Answer
Good afternoon, Konstantin Pavlovich. This is a design feature of the car. Thank you for your feedback.
Artem
- 21/10/2019
- Kemerovo
Hello. Please explain the meaning of the option heating without air conditioning. If I understand correctly, in the absence of this option, the stove in the car will work together with the air conditioner, hence the question arises why at -10 degrees and below the air conditioner? In addition, it also increases fuel consumption. Why I was interested in this option, I own a Chevrolet Lacheti 2007, I have the ability to turn off the air conditioner in my car when the stove is running. The car is operated in Siberia and at -20 degrees and below, I never had a desire to turn on the air conditioner, but on the contrary, so that the stove was warmer. My opinion as a consumer and a car enthusiast is that the absence of this option in more expensive trim levels is not logical than the presence of this option in the cheapest trim level.
Answer
Good afternoon, Artyom. Your question is not entirely clear. Heating option without air conditioning in the most budget trim levels means no air conditioning in the car. And regarding the operation of the air conditioner at negative temperatures, the air conditioner does not turn on at an ambient temperature of +3 - +4 degrees. Thank you for your feedback.
Yuri Anatolievich
- 09/10/2019
- Moscow
Good afternoon! The car of 2016 from the first batches. The "diffused lighting" and "automatic closing of doors" function does not work, so that the locks themselves close when moving, no matter how hard they try to set it up in the GU. Is this in all cars of the first batches and these functions do not initially work or can the dealer fix it for a hundred?
Answer
Good afternoon, Yuri Anatolievich. The functions you mentioned are not available in this car model and their installation is impossible. Thank you for your feedback.
The Korean manufacturer Daewoo is famous for its budget and reliable cars. For the most part, these are Matiz and Nexia. They make up the majority of the market in Russia. But in 2013, Nexia was replaced by new car- Daewoo Gentra. The car is produced to this day. The manufacturer positions Gentra as the most affordable sedan golf class. But is it worth buying a Daewoo Gentra car? Reviews real owners, photo, review and specifications, see below.
Appearance
Design this sedan was copied completely from the first generation of Lacetti. This does not hide the automaker himself. The appearance of the Gentra is identical to the Chevrolet: slanted headlights, a streamlined bumper and a smooth roof. Behind, too, was not without plagiarism. The trunk lid and lights are exactly like the Lacetti sedan.
According to reviews, the appearance of the car is quite outdated by now. The design got "lost" sometime in the 2000s. Therefore, there is no need to talk about modern lines and expressive forms. On the other hand, it is not worth criticizing a car that is sold at the price of a VAZ (by the way, we will consider prices and equipment at the end of the article).
Body and corrosion
The manufacturer notes that the thickness of the metal is from 0.75 to 1.8 millimeters. Moreover, the body is made of a sheet with an anti-corrosion coating. According to the reviews of the owners, the Daewoo Gentra is really well protected from corrosion. Rust does not appear even on models of the first years of production. The body does not rot in the same way as on the original Korean Nexia. But as for the gaps, here the Koreans missed. A lot of complaints from the owners cause gaps between the wings, headlights and doors.
Dimensions, ground clearance
The car, judging by the dimensions, belongs to the C-class. So, the body length is 4.5 meters, width - 1.72, height - 1.45 meters.
What really pleases is the high ground clearance. This is noted by the reviews of taxi drivers. "Daewoo Gentra" on standard 15-inch wheels has a clearance of 16 centimeters. Also, the car has very short bumpers, which allows you to climb the curbs without any problems.
Salon
Inside the car looks modest, but sitting is quite pleasant. It's just embarrassing characteristic sound closing doors. And this happens even on new cars, this is said in many reviews. "Daewoo Gentra" is available in different trim levels, which can be distinguished by the presence or absence of wooden inserts on the panel and door cards. A rather strange decision today - aluminum or chrome inserts would look much more profitable here. Still, the tree is a remnant of the fashion of the 90s. As for the quality of finishing materials, the plastic is not hard, which pleases. Noise isolation is also on the level. True, a couple of additional insulation sheets in the area of \u200b\u200bthe front arches of the Gentra would not hurt. The steering wheel is adjustable in two planes. True, this is not available in all trim levels of the car.
Are there any problems in the cabin in the Daewoo Gentra? Reviews note the poor performance of the air conditioner. From the factory, little freon is filled into it, which evaporates over time anyway. In order for the air conditioner to cool normally, you have to go to the service yourself and refuel the refrigerant. By the way, low-quality O-rings were used on the Gentra dryer. Freon and oil seeped through them. This is a disease of all Daewoo Gentra sedans, according to reviews. Leaving the oil from the air conditioning system led to compressor breakdowns. Many have changed it under warranty. But the owners of older models will have to repair everything at their own expense.
Trunk
Trunk volume is 405 liters. I am pleased with the low loading height and the presence of a niche for a full-size spare tire. In addition, you can expand the volume by folding the back rear seats. As a result, you can fit up to 1226 liters of luggage.
Power part
As is the case with other models, the Daewoo Gentra does not have a wide variety of engines. So, the sedan is equipped with a single gasoline engine for 107 Horse power. This is a one and a half liter engine with a 16-valve timing system. This unit is equipped mechanical box five-speed gears or a six-band automatic.
Performance characteristics
One and a half liter engine in terms of dynamic characteristics does not upset, say the reviews. "Daewoo Gentra" accelerates to hundreds in about 11.5 seconds on the mechanics. With a gun - a second later. Of course, you should not expect significant power from such a motor. But in order to stay in the stream, these characteristics are enough. Max speed is 180 kilometers per hour.
But as for fuel consumption, here the numbers for the owners vary significantly. So, the most economical consumption is obtained on the Daewoo Gentra with mechanics. Reviews say that on the highway without air conditioning, the car spends about 6.9 liters per hundred. But the machine is more voracious. On the highway, this figure is more per liter. In the city, consumption reaches 12 liters. And in winter with warming up, even more - 14 per hundred. In view of this, many owners transfer the car to gas. This results in significant savings. The car spends about the same on gas.
Are there any problems?
If we talk about the Daewoo Gentry machine box, the reviews do not contain any complaints. Every 60 thousand it needs to change the oil, and that's it. The box does not kick and shifts gears clearly. The mechanics here are completely eternal, the owners say. This design has been tested over the years and has been used since the time of the Lacetti.
But the engine ECU sometimes causes problems. This unit is located in a place where dirt, water and dust constantly enter. Therefore, often the ECU fails, moreover, due to the banal oxidation of the contacts. As a result, the car may malfunction when idling or even stall in the middle of the road.
Another problem concerns the generator. On the Gentra, it is short-lived. The bearing often fails, which is why you can hear a characteristic trolleybus rumble under the hood. Moreover, the owners of this problem occurs with different frequency. Someone after 5 thousand, someone after 70.
Prices, equipment
In Russia this car sold in several versions:
- Comfort.
- Optimum.
- Elegant.
The base will be available at a price of 540 thousand rubles. The list of options includes:
- Heated side mirrors.
- Power steering.
- Immobilizer.
- Two front cushions.
- Stamped wheels 15 inches.
- Audio preparation for six speakers.
- Fog lights.
- Power windows and mirrors.
Luxury "Elegant" version is available at a price of 670 thousand rubles. Air conditioning, ABS, alarm, steering wheel adjustment in two positions are available here, alloy wheels, acoustics for six speakers with a radio, heated front seats and a "premium" interior trim. Each car is covered by a guarantee for a period of five years or 150 thousand kilometers.
Summing up
So, we found out what reviews and characteristics the Daewoo Gentra sedan has. The main advantage of Gentra is the price. After all, for 540 thousand rubles you get, in fact, a Chevrolet Lacetti with a proven box, a reliable chassis and a very comfortable lounge. In many ways, this car is superior to the Lada, so the Gentra will definitely not be left without demand. Is it worth buying such a car? This car will be an ideal choice for those who want to get a new hassle-free foreign car for a small amount of money. "Gentra" - nice car for everyday life, but you definitely won’t be able to stand out on it. He looks way too old.