Great wall hover H3 is one of the best Chinese frame SUVs. Optimally combines sufficiently high quality, reasonable price and high cross-country ability. Chinese jeep is in great demand for secondary market, since car maintenance is inexpensive, and a small amount Horse power under the hood will not make the vehicle tax ruinous. It should be said that the Great Wall Hover X3 is a practical exact copy of the Japanese Isuzu Axiom SUV. Therefore, many factory diseases and shortcomings were transferred straight from the Japanese car.
Weaknesses of the Great Wall Hover H3
- cardan shaft;
- Door locks;
- Switching electric drive all-wheel drive;
- Factory alarm;
- manual transmission;
- Wiper drive.
Now more…
Paintwork.
Of course, Chinese cars are already much better than ten years ago, but the paint and varnish still leaves much to be desired. If you purchase 2-3 summer SUV, then the first thing to check is the paint on the fenders and roof.
As practice shows, even in a short period of operation, the paint on the roof and wings can bloom or go streaked. This nuance is not critical, but it is not beautiful when the paintwork of a car of individual elements differs from the quality of painting the car itself.
cardan shaft.
The cardan shaft of the car is made of low-quality Chinese steel. This affected the durability of the part in the most negative way. The problem has long been recognized by the official distributor and cardan shaft change under warranty. However, they install exactly the same poor quality part. Therefore, acquiring Great Wall Hover H3 should ask the seller about replacing the cardan, if it has not changed, then be mentally prepared to replace it. If the car was often used off-road, then the driveshaft will have to be changed with a very high probability. Also, the vessels can be attributed to such a Great Val Hover 3 disease as a cardan cross. Its cost is not high, but the problem is the place to be.
Door locks.
Breaking as fast as castles LADA cars. If you open the doors often enough, and slam hard enough, then they can be broken already in the second year of the car's operation. When purchasing a car from your hands, check how well the locks are preserved. Just open and close the doors and listen. If there are no characteristic rattling sounds, then the locks are safe and sound. If clattering and rattling is present, then the locks are broken.
The electric drive of inclusion of a full drive.
By default, the car is rear-wheel drive. To connect the all-wheel drive, a special electric drive is used. Often, in humid weather or when severe frost the drive fails. It is very simple to check the health of the drive. Move the mode control washer to the 4H or 4L position. If a on-board computer did not give an error, and the car "rakes" all four wheels, then the electric drive is working properly.
Wiper drive.
On many cars, car owners are faced with such a problem as the failure of the wiper motor. But it is important to know that this malfunction mainly occurs in the winter. It is enough that the wipers freeze a little, and when they are turned on, this can happen, since they are not intended for the harsh Russian winters. Therefore, when buying, be sure to check the performance of the windshield wipers.
Company alarm.
Great Wall Hover H3 is equipped with a key-operated alarm system. After a few years of operation, the car may refuse to open (or close) with the key. This is due to low-quality microcircuits that cannot withstand the harsh Russian conditions. When buying a Great Wall Hover H3 on the market, you should open and close the car with the key several times. If at least once the button did not work, and the alarm did not turn off, then this is the reason for a significant price reduction, because a faulty "signal" can ruin a lot of nerves.
In this case, not even the box itself is weak, but the shaft bearings quickly wear out and fly apart. Which leads to further consequences in the manual transmission. These troubles in the box mainly occur within a mileage of 100 thousand km. Therefore, when choosing and buying a car, you should pay attention to the mileage and ask if the gearbox has been repaired. If not, then most likely the future owner will do it.
The main disadvantages of the Great Wall Hover X3
- Opening the gas tank hatch with a key, which causes trouble in the winter;
- Crickets in door upholstery and seat mounts;
- Rigid suspension;
- Low power motor;
- Prolonged heating in winter;
- Electrical (although this can also be attributed to vulnerabilities);
- Weak soundproofing.
Conclusion.
In general, we can say that the price-quality ratio this car would like better. It is also important to remember that the Hover 3 is an SUV and when buying these cars it is important to check the “hodovka” and suspension.
P.S. Dear current and future owners, write in the comments problem areas and shortcomings of your car, identified during operation.
Weak spots and the main disadvantages of the Great Val Hover X3 with mileage was last modified: April 10th, 2019 by Administrator
The gasoline engines that the Great Wall Hover was equipped with are licensed copies of Mitsubishi engines. All motors have proven themselves with positive side as very reliable and not whimsical. These engines have a timing belt drive, which is better to change every 60 thousand km, since there were unpleasant cases of its breakage and valve damage.
"H3" was equipped with a weaker 2-liter 4G63 engine with a capacity of 122 hp.
"H2" was equipped with a 2.4 l 4G64 unit with a capacity of 130 hp. On these SUVs Russian assembly at the end of 2007 and 2008, with a run of more than 60 - 80 thousand km, it was necessary to change the cylinder head gasket due to its "breakdown" between the 1st and 2nd cylinders. The reason for this often occurring event lies in the insufficient bolts of the cylinder head itself in the region of the 1st and 2nd cylinders. Revealed when checking the magnitude of the tightening torque of the “head” bolts. On motors that had a "tightening" of the bolts, such troubles did not arise.
The water cooling pump will require replacement with a mileage of more than 90 - 100 thousand km.
In 2007, Great Wall Hover appeared in the line of engines diesel unit 2.8 liters with 95 hp This engine does not cause any complaints. Timing belt drive. Every 10 thousand km must be changed fuel filter(500 - 1500 rubles). Candles on this motor take care of more than 70 - 90 thousand km. Nozzles go more than 90 - 100 thousand km. With a run of more than 100 thousand km, you will most likely have to replace the intake manifold gasket, this will be indicated by the appearance of oil from the starter side and a drop in its level.
All Hovers were equipped with a 5-speed mechanical box gears. The owners have a lot of complaints about her work. These include box noise and fuzzy shifting. On the Hover "H2" with a run of more than 100 thousand km, there were several cases of box failure due to a crumbling intermediate shaft bearing. In general, with a run of more than 100 thousand km, it is most likely that the box will need to be repaired with the replacement of the bearings of the primary, secondary and intermediate shafts. With this run, traces of a leak in the input shaft seal may appear. The clutch is a long-liver, its replacement may be necessary with a run of more than 120 - 160 thousand km. Those who love to "light up" will most likely be forced to do this much earlier - with a run of 60 - 90 thousand km. Clutch kit price official dealers about 7,000 rubles, from unauthorized sellers - about 3 - 4 thousand rubles.
With a run of more than 80 - 100 thousand km, vibrations may occur in the speed range of 60 - 80 km / h due to a broken rear cardan cross. With rare driving with all-wheel drive turned on, vibrations may occur when the “front end” is connected due to souring of the front cardan cross.
Suspension problems appear no earlier than 70 - 90 thousand km. With such a run, it often becomes necessary to broach the suspension. Then the front shock absorbers surrender, which begin to sweat and tap. Ball and salent blocks are suitable for replacement with a run of more than 80 - 100 thousand km. Racks and bushings of the stabilizer will require replacement with a run of more than 120 thousand km.
It is often possible to get rid of the squeak coming from the area of \u200b\u200bthe rear shock absorbers by a simple operation, which consists in rearranging the disc washer with a cup to the rubber band.
With a run of more than 80 - 100 thousand km, there were cases of failure of the power steering pump, which buzzed. The cost of the pump is about 10 thousand rubles. But it is not worth rushing to change it entirely, in most cases, in order to bring the pump back to life, it was enough to replace the bearing (300 - 500 rubles).
front brake pads nursed 40 - 50 thousand km. When replacing them, do not forget to lubricate the caliper guides, otherwise, with a run of more than 60 thousand km, they often become soured, which causes the brakes to wedged. The front brake discs will have to be replaced with a run of 60 - 80 thousand km (from 3.5 thousand to 6 thousand rubles), and the rear - with a run of more than 80 - 100 thousand km.
Filler cap fuel tank often causes trouble due to the rusting insides of the castle or its freezing in winter. The lock mechanism must be treated with a water-repellent composition. Weak sealing of the corrugation of the rear door, which protects the wires and pipes, contributes to the penetration of water into the trunk. You can eliminate the unpleasant phenomenon by making an influx of sealant along the contour of the hole into which the corrugation is inserted.
Wipers really do not like “freezing”, a weak drive immediately gives up, flying off the bushing or cutting off the slots in the leash. New drive the collection will cost 600 rubles.
Hover's paintwork is very flimsy and unstable to aggressive environmental influences. To save yourself from further disappointment, it is better not to skimp on anti-corrosion treatment. And when chips appear, they must be immediately eliminated. The first signs of corrosion appear after 4 years of operation. Basically, the foci occur around the license plate on the back door at the place where the frame fits to the body. Small foci appear around the headlights, on the wheel arches and under the door trim.
On the Great Wall Hover H2 with leather trim, even with a run of more than 60 thousand km, the steering wheel and driver's seat are wiped. "Crickets" are not uncommon in the Great Wall Hover cabin. Folding backrest fasteners often creak rear seat and door trim.
Many owners of this SUV complain about the lack of heat in cold weather. The reason is the leakage of the entire air supply system. The connection points of the fan/air conditioner units are sealed with flimsy foam seals. After finalizing the joints of the duct elements with splenitis, the picture changes dramatically. The long-awaited warmth appears in the cabin.
On cars of 2008 with a run of more than 70 - 80 thousand km, there are frequent cases of leakage of the heater radiator.
From the history of the model
ON THE CONVEYOR: since 2005.
BODY: station wagon.
ENGINES: petrol - P4, 2.0 l, 122 hp; 2.4 l, 130 and 136 hp; diesel - P4, 2.0 l, 150 hp; 2.8 l, 95 hp
GEARBOX: M5, A5.
DRIVE: rear, full.
RESTYLING:
2010 - changed bumpers, grille and lighting equipment; redesigned salon; transfer case control became electronic;
2011 - completely changed the front end: bumper, fenders, lighting equipment and grille; redesigned rear: bumper and trunk lid; appeared "automatic".
CRASH TESTS:
2007, Hover H2, C-NCAP methodology: overall score - three stars, frontal impact - 10 points (63%), frontal impact with 40% overlap - 12 points (77%), side impact - 15 points ( 92%);
2010, "Hover H3", Dmitrov test site, methodology Euro NCAP: overall rating - four stars, 11.7 points out of 16 possible (73%);
2011, "Hover H5", Dmitrovsky training ground, Russian methodology - the Chinese all-terrain vehicle meets all safety requirements in force on the territory of the Russian Federation.
TWINS
The Chinese have mastered the technology of cloning well, and in the case of Hover, no gene mutations occurred. The twin of the Japanese "Isuzu-Axiom" turned out to be quite nice and solid. Initially, the car was made only in China, but already in April 2010, assembly was launched in Gzhel, near Moscow. The Russian VIN is located under the hood, on the engine shield on the left, the Chinese one is stamped on the frame, behind the rear right wheel, when registering it is entered simply as the frame number. Our assembly, unfortunately, differs not for the better. Body parts are poorly fitted, and already in the service you have to finish the car, eliminating unacceptably large gaps. There were cases when, due to a hacky assembly, leaks appeared in the cabin through the openings rear doors and trunk lids.
The body color of the Hover is not famous for its high quality, but it also does not have serious flaws. The biggest problem was the appearance of rust under the lining of the fifth door due to the unsuccessful design of the latter. But it was already changed during the first restyling. The metal of the body is not galvanized, but with proper care somehow keeps.
THE QUIETER YOU GO, THE FURTHER YOU'LL GET
Gasoline engines are borrowed from Mitsubishi, they can be found on Pajero and Outlander. On the first "Hovers H2" under the hood even symbols were preserved Japanese manufacturer. All motors are reliable and maintainable. However, when adjusted to modern toxicity standards, they lost in dynamics. Although the Japanese, under the same restrictions, take much more off their engines.
Strange thing, during the first modernization (“Hover H3”), the 2.4 liter engine (4G64 with a capacity of 130 hp), which frankly did not pull, was replaced by an even less powerful 2-liter (4G63, 122 hp). During the second work on the bugs (“Hover H5”), the old displacement returned (4G69, 136 hp), but did not add enthusiasm. To help owners, some services offer flashing the control unit. The service is efficient and very popular.
Contrary to the permission to use the 92nd gasoline, it is recommended not to save and pour the 95th - due to the tendency of the motor to detonate. Fuel consumption can be considered adequate for the displacement of engines and the weight of the car. Don't skimp on oil changes either. Since this year, the manufacturer has reduced the interval between maintenance to 8000 km, and this is quite justified, especially when operating the Hover outside good roads. Most of the faults are supplied by the motor equipment. Most often, the crankshaft sensor and lambda probes fail. In the first case, the problem is in the quality of the node, and in the second, half the battle is in our gasoline. Sometimes there is a malfunction of the regulator idle move, otherwise there are no more defects than with eminent manufacturers.
There are no complaints about diesel engines. A very rare atmospheric volume of 2.8 liters migrated from the Axiom and is found only on pre-styling H2 models. A supercharged 2-liter diesel engine is already a joint German-Chinese development, but it has become available only on the H5. Possessing high reliability, the new diesel engine, unfortunately, is no less lazy than its gasoline brothers. A significant turbo lag releases only after 2000 rpm, which is extremely uncharacteristic for diesel engines. But here, too, flashing will come to the rescue.
DOSED LOAD
The manual transmission is quite reliable. She suffers mainly due to unprofessional tuning. When installing additional protection, its airflow is disturbed, causing overheating, from which the bearings primarily suffer. This is also observed when oil change intervals are not observed. Fortunately, the box is structurally simple and maintainable.
The clutch is not famous for its high reliability. The average life is about 80,000 km, and that is greatly reduced when driving off-road. In the spare parts market you will find reinforced analogues. They will last longer, but the shifts will become tougher. At one time, there was a clutch basket defect on the H5, which is why the gears turned on badly on a warm car. On some "Hovers" a ringing was heard release bearing. For reasons not fully understood, his body touched the petals of the basket. The defect is treated by replacing the assembly with a selective selection of parts. There is a slight adjustment of the pedal stroke, but contrary to rumors, this operation does not have a significant effect on the life of the linings.
Aisin automatic transmission is only available on H5 with diesel engine. There are no problems with her.
FULL FORWARD
The transfer case control lever on the H2, when switching to the H3 model, gave way to a button (it is also found on the transitional H2).
On all Hovers front axle is engaged through an electronic clutch that controls the connection of the left wheel shaft to the front differential output shaft. With the clutch disengaged, free rotation of the front right wheel causes free rotation of the differential, as a result, other elements of the transmission do not rotate.
The all-wheel drive enable sensor most often becomes the culprit of malfunctions - the inability to connect or spontaneous locking of the clutch.
The mechanical part of the all-wheel drive does not cause problems. Maintenance of the dispenser comes down to timely oil changes. Bridges are reliable and designed for increased load. The main thing here is to follow the maintenance rules. There was a period when there was a factory marriage of internal anthers of CV joints. For no apparent reason, holes appeared into which grease was squeezed out. Timely replacement of covers helped.
There are spare parts on the market for fine-tuning the model: other main pairs, differentials with locks. Some services offer to raise the body. But even without fine-tuning, the off-road capabilities of the Hover meet the expectations of most owners.
DISAPPEARING SPECIES
Hover boasts frame structure and reliable suspension. The only reason for complaints rear shock absorbers on restyled H3 and H5. Owners complain about their excessive rigidity, which is why the rear of the car bounces on bumps. But you can pick up analogues softer. Silent blocks of the front upper arms run 80,000 km, and the lower ones - about 100,000. Balls last about 60,000 km and usually die in pairs. Silent blocks rear suspension live approximately 100,000 km.
The braking system is poorly calculated. Due to the large weight of the car, the pads wear out very quickly: the front pads to 20,000 km, and the rear pads to 35,000. At the same time, the front brake discs are enough for 80,000 km, and the rear ones are rarely changed at all. With heavy use, they turn sour by 20,000 km brake mechanisms. It is worth doing their prevention with each change of pads. Steering malfunctions are found mainly on pre-styling H2. By about the age of five, the power steering pump may fail. The lower steering cardan connecting the angular gear and the rack is also weak. On H3, this design was abandoned. Reiki rarely break, and tie rods and tips are changed separately.
WEATHER IN THE HOUSE
The salon at first almost completely migrated from Axiom. But when upgrading to H3, they introduced their own version. Although sometimes there are transitional H3 with an old interior. The internal electrical equipment has a separate control unit. Because of his abnormal work, the electrician sometimes went crazy. During the recall campaign, this block was reflashed.
The disadvantage of the air conditioning system was the lack cabin filter(until this year) and the location of the lower refrigerant pipe, which suffers from reagents. The stove radiator requires attention - it sometimes flows on old H2.
The rain sensor can cause damage to the wipers. In winter, when the wiper blades stick to the glass, due to its operation, it cuts off the slots on the leashes. In the mechanism, plastic bushings also often break; to replace them, you will have to completely disassemble the trapezoid.
15.02.2014
I know from experience that the most unpleasant and time-consuming troubleshooting is “incomprehensible” malfunctions. Such that when the owner of the car begins to list them, there is a feeling of unreality: “This cannot be!”. Because illogicality creeps out of every word.
Well, judge for yourself, I'll bring last example: 2007 GREAT WALL Hover. The problem began to arise gradually: a man was driving and driving, and he wanted to lower the window, it was hot. Mechanically and without being distracted from the road, he pressed the power window button and the car immediately jerked and stalled. He didn't understand. I looked at the instrument panel, on the sides - everything is fine. Only it is extremely incomprehensible ... the man started the engine again and drove off. And then he recalled this incident and told his friends as something extremely surprising: “This cannot be, but it happened - I’ll tell you now ...”.
And he would have forgotten about this incident, and would not have remembered - if this had not happened again: he wanted to open the window, pressed the button, and the car died once. And here he was no longer surprised, but had to be nervous and think that it might be time for him to go to a car service and deal with this incomprehensible problem.
But in life, as it happens: "Until the roasted rooster pecks." And the malfunction inside the car lived, developed until one more thing happened - incomprehensible, mysterious and disturbing: during the trip, I pressed the brake, and the car picked up and stalled ... release the brake, start the engine again - you drive as if nothing had happened . So there is only one conclusion: “To the car service! Yes, hurry up.
From own experience in troubleshooting such "mysterious" faults, I know that when a fault is tagged "incomprehensible, illogical, mysterious", then the problem may lie in the automotive electrician.
I always look with curiosity at the client, to whom you will tell about the cause of the malfunction, show its place and name the price for the work. Another wonders, they say, why is it so expensive? ..
"Expensive" is relative. I understand that everyone does what they do and wants to get adequate money for their work. And the search for an “incomprehensible, mysterious, illogical” malfunction is approximately the same as throwing a needle into a pile of sand on a KAMAZ truck, dumping this sand on the ground and saying: “Now let's find this needle” ...
Of course, there is a certain and many years of experience in finding such malfunctions, so I can show where I started looking for a malfunction:
This is the driver's seat and everything around it. Why: this is where all the information and power circuits of the car pass. And when the malfunction is "incomprehensible and mysterious", then you can assume a bad contact somewhere, a bad "mass" and the like. And what do you think, how many contacts, connection points can be located in the space shown in the photo above? Not ten, for sure. But the figure "one hundred or more" is already closer to the truth. And each contact, connector, junction needs to be inspected, examined, and made sure that it works.
Unfortunately, at that time I had certain difficulties called “information hunger” and could not find a specific diagram of specific sections of electrical circuits. And it's not "surprising". Probably, only dealers can have complete information, and we, private automobile entrepreneurs, have to dodge somehow.
However, not everything is so bad. I know that the Legion-Avtodata company has been developing and promoting its Motordata program for many years. But I won’t lie: at that time I didn’t have the necessary electrical circuit this car:
This scheme came to me later. And that's what I thought: "if this shemka was at that time, then the troubleshooting would take much less time."
Well, I began to clarify the problem and look for this mystery in the appearance of a malfunction. I started with the ignition switch, then moved on to checking the fuses under the hood, the fuse box in the cabin. Then the doors ... burn ...
There are different ways to identify a problem. In the initial training courses of the same Toyota, it is written about them: “Checking for fragility ... for bending ... for vibration". And at some point I discovered that when one of the harnesses of the driver's door was stirred and broken, the power was lost. I looked more closely: the harness under the lining of the left pillar at the driver's feet:
More specifically, the problem rests on this connector:
First theoretically, then practically figured out this place. And when he took it apart, he nodded with satisfaction: “This is it ...”:
Some contacts looked more or less normal:
… and some simply rotted away:
Here is the "mysterious" problem. In principle, “everything is very simple” - if you have many years of experience and a day in reserve. Or "two days + infinity" - depending on the complexity of the task.
To clean, clean the connector and the remaining contacts from the "green" work is thankless and unnecessary. You don't have to leave it like that. Therefore, I made new connections with a different connector.
The question remains: How could this happen? How can this be avoided?" So, like this: the car was not a "drowned" and "green" on the contacts and connectors could not appear from this. Where then?
As an option, I can offer this: "Violation of factory technology." What exactly? Inaccurate dimensions of parts, for example. If the “father” enters the “mother” and has at least some kind of gap, then in this place - provided that a large current flows there, the so-called “vulnerability zone” is created, provoking soot on the contact pads and, as a result, poor conductivity - which increases the current, creates excess heat; then comes local heating, reflow, and here it is - a “mysterious” malfunction. And moisture on the contacts gets through the slots of the seals of the connectors. All this together creates such a dangerous cocktail that will definitely come out along with an “incomprehensible and strange” malfunction. And it’s good if everything, as in this case, will cost “little blood”. But it could have happened differently: due to poor contact, the current strength will exceed the maximum permissible value, which can provoke such a strong local heating that will lead to melting and ignition. Do you agree with me?
Each of our interlocutors has already managed to roll on his "rogue" almost 100,000 kilometers. Agree, quite an impressive mileage. How old are these machines? We will not talk about each separately - where and when they bought it, in what configuration, how they operated it. We only note that the age of the cars is from 3 to 5 years, and we will devote all our attention to analyzing what happened to them.
Sores, of course, are enough for every car (and not only for Chinese). Only the degree of their criticality and the frequency of manifestation differ. It is clear that Hover H5 - in terms of breakdowns and problems that come to light during operation. However, it cannot be called as terrible as the products of the PRC auto industry sometimes represent.
Judge for yourself: after 50,000-70,000 km, the most common problems faced by "hoverers" turned out to be "glitches" of various controllers. For example, a sensor needs to be replaced transfer box- although if you do not use the "lower", then you can not bother. The twitching of the car at the time of starting the engine in almost all cases indicated that it would be nice to change the camshaft sensor. And very frequent complaints are caused by engine malfunctions in wet weather, which are treated by flashing the control unit.
Of the absurd defects - under-rotated gear levers during assembly, distortion of the windows in the front doors when trying to lift them up, a short circuit in the electric seat heating system. Everything would be fine, but riding a hot chair is not a pleasant pleasure.
After a run of 70,000-100,000 km, especially if the "Chinese" was periodically driven off-road, the pipes of the air conditioning system quite often crumble. As you might guess, the reason for this is the dirt and moisture that gets on them. Plus, the short tube of the air conditioner in the place of the fastener is in contact with the metal of the body, which causes corrosion and, as a result, a break. Still love to burn windows. That, in fact, is all.
During the time that the Hover H5 is being sold in Russia, its owners have specific wishes for the car: they all consider it necessary to equip it with fender liner and crankcase protection. Some are annoyed by the need to open the gas tank hatch with a key, as well as the eternally dirty button for opening the fifth door. Someone complains about too flimsy bumpers, which are easy to say goodbye to when maneuvering unsuccessfully in the parking lot. As for the interior, according to fans of the model, it would be useful to bring out the crickets that have settled here and exclude the unpleasant creak that manifests itself on impassable roads.