Citroen c4 petrol. Reviews of the owners of Citroen C4 (Citroen C4)

A frisky high-torque engine, a manual transmission with a hint of sportiness, sane clear responses to the steering wheel, moderately light at speed, heavy when braking. Good noise isolation for a cheap car. Comfortable seating, rear sofa is very comfortable. Large salon, when compared with classmates, for rear passengers enough space. Roomy trunk with a large opening, everything is trimmed with fabric. Prices for spare parts are comparable with AvtoVAZ - there are no problems with them.

Citroen C4, 2010

I recently bought a Citroen C4 in Minsk. The machine works great, no complaints. In terms of comfort, the Citroen C4 is not inferior to more expensive models. Under the hood, 120 horsepower, which does not allow ridicule big machines over my runabout on the road. Of the minuses, I can note the low reliability. The engine error light was on once. bad gasoline. The second time I visited a car service about the alarm - it was malfunctioning. But in the end, there were more benefits. So to everyone who does not have money for a foreign business class car, I recommend purchasing this wonderful Citroen car C4. Advantages of the car: Comfort, design, engine. Disadvantages of car: Reliability.

It is difficult to understand why Citroen, creating the second generation C4, decided to do away with "creative technologies" and presented a completely ordinary car, devoid of original solutions that determined the unusual character of the first generation Citroen C4. For example, a fixed steering wheel hub or digital indicators.

Perhaps this is intended so as not to interfere with the models of the DS line. In any case, the Citroen C4 II is, first of all, reasonable, conservative, without numerous design traps. And this is already an advantage for those who are looking for secondary market a car less than 5 years old, not overcrowded with sophisticated equipment.

In the end, the manufacturer did not hide the fact that for the second C4 he used the technical base of his predecessor. Thus, in the bowels lies a platform originally developed for the Peugeot 307. At the same time, Citroen has carried out numerous improvements both mechanically and electronically. For example, there is no longer a specific VAN (Vehicle Area Network) data network. This original French analogue of the CAN bus regularly haunted the owners of the first generation C4.

The other major improvement was in the rear suspension. Rear racks too noisy working on bumps. The manufacturer changed the shock absorbers several times, but to no avail. In the second generation, they finally corrected the situation. For this, additional stiffeners were installed in the area of ​​​​the upper mounting of the shock absorbers.

BMW intervention

atmospheric gasoline engines with the designation VTi and THP turbo engines were created during the period of cooperation between Peugeot and the BMW Group. Neither VTi nor THP are without flaws. At the very beginning, there were oil leaks from the oil pump solenoid valve and the timing chain tensioner. In addition, often the computer reported errors in the operation of the exhaust gas cleaning system. The ignition coils did not differ in reliability either. At 1.6 THP, the most common concern is the timing chain tensioner. This concerns, first of all, early copies. The younger C4, the less chance of problems.

VTi engines do not have turbocharging and direct fuel injection. Therefore, they are less susceptible to fuel quality and do not carry the risk of piston cracking, which sometimes happened in THP engines.

Owners of cars with VTi sometimes encounter various anomalies or difficult start-ups in the cold season. There are several reasons. These include position sensors. camshafts. They are located in the plastic cover of the engine. And since the motor operates at a relatively high operating temperature (higher than TNR), the cover deforms over time. This leads to a change in the position of the sensors, which begin to give false information. The disease is characteristic of cars operated in the city, where high temperatures are most often reached.

According to the owners, the Citroen C4 with 1.6 VTi and 1.6 THP engines consumes approximately the same amount of fuel during quiet driving in the city - about 9 liters per 100 km. More frequent pressing of the gas pedal in the case of a turbo version leads to a noticeable increase in fuel consumption.

1.2e-THP

Despite numerous improvements, the VTi and THP motors are still quite a risky choice. In 2013, a three-cylinder turbocharged 1.2 e-THP, also called PureTech, appeared under the hood. This is a modified version of the old aspirated 1.0 VTi and 1.2 VTi, equipped with direct injection. The C4 offered only the turbocharged series marked with the EB index.

The motor has nothing in common with the previous EP series (VTi and THP). In addition to three cylinders, it is equipped with toothed belt Timing, working in an oil bath, as in the Ford 1.0 Ecoboost engine. However, unlike it, the 1.2 e-THP uses a balance shaft driven by crankshaft with the help of gears (gears).

The manufacturer recommends changing the belt after 180,000 km or 120 months. And, as practice shows, the belt copes with the allotted kilometers without any problems. Oddly enough, the oil used is simple - SAE 0W-30 with the PSA B71 2312 specification.

First (in 2013) a 130 hp version was introduced, and the following year it was supplemented by a more modest 110 hp. Both modifications use the same turbocharger, and different power is due to differences in the electronics settings.

It is important to note that 1.2 e-THP is still relatively reliable. Including, thanks to the fact that the manufacturer did not make the same mistake as in the case of TNR. The e-THP has had forged pistons from the start. They tolerate loads much better and are less prone to the accumulation of soot.

Diesels

In Europe, the diesel version of the Citroen C4 with 1.6 HDi is also quite popular. The motor differs from earlier designs with the same name in the presence of an 8-valve block head and a particulate filter. The main advantage is very low fuel consumption. Of course, it is not as small as the manufacturer promised, but if you follow the rules, you can keep within 5 liters per 100 km. All diesel engines have a timing belt drive. The manufacturer prescribes its replacement after 240,000 km or 10 years.

HDi and e-HDi engines have a so-called wet particulate filter in the exhaust gas treatment system with an EOLYS fluid supply system that requires periodic replenishment. This filter is the least problematic and the cheapest to replace. In addition, a BlueHDi version was proposed, using a selective SCR type catalyst, the task of which is to reduce the content of nitrogen oxides only. It requires the use of AdBlue fluid to function.

Until 2015, not very reliable piezoelectric VDO injectors were used. If one refused, the others soon gave up. The exception is e-HDi until 2013 and the 93-horsepower version. Both were equipped with more reliable Bosch electromagnetic injectors, which are also repairable.

Transmission

It is a pity that the basic versions of the Citroen C4 with 1.4 and 1.6 VTi have only a 5-speed manual. Optionally, a 4-speed automatic could be ordered for the 1.6 VTi, but it received unflattering reviews due to excessive slowness and potential problems with the activator. The THP engine could be combined with an automated transmission with double clutch EGS6.

The weaker version 1.2 e-THP was equipped with a 5-speed manual, and the stronger version was equipped with a 6-speed one. In addition, the latter received an excellent 6-speed Aisin automatic as an alternative.

Comfort is a priority

Suspension Citroen C4 traditionally for French compacts has MacPherson struts at the front and a torsion beam at the rear (on springs). Chassis settings are soft: the car rolls a lot in corners, but at the same time it dampens bumps perfectly. At the moment, the owners find no reason to complain about the durability of the suspension. There are already replacements on the market that can save on repairs.

Shock absorbers often became the cause of knocking in front. The manufacturer has upgraded them several times. But if the knock comes from the right, then it probably comes from a loose power steering pump bracket. It uses an electro-hydraulic booster.

An unexpected amplifier can cause relatively high costs. The cause is one of the hoses that is clogged. This causes an increase in pressure in the servo control system, which leads to leaks. hydraulic fluid. As a working fluid, not the previously popular ATF Dexron is used, but LDS. Same as used in hydropneumatic suspension Citroen C5 and C6. The system is filled with 1.8 liters.

Fluid leakage can destroy the electric pump. Unfortunately, due to the location of the pump (under the wing), even a caring owner who regularly looks under the hood will not be able to detect a leak in a timely manner. An alarm should be caused by unusual sounds or noise that occur when maximum pump performance is required. In any case, the steering wheel should not be too heavy. A new pump costs almost 40,000 rubles.

Typical problems and malfunctions:

Oil leaks in 1.6 VTi: mainly from the oil pump solenoid valve and timing chain tensioner.

Malfunctions in the exhaust gas cleaning system, both gasoline and diesel versions.

High oil consumption at high speeds in 1.6 VTi.

Failure of ignition coils in 1.6 VTi and THP.

Lock failures tailgate, head unit, information display and navigation. Fortunately, Citroen C4 electronics usually work stably.

Don't count on gifts

We have to admit that at the moment, in matters of reliability, the C4 receives good reviews, thereby minimizing the stereotype about the extreme problematicness of French cars. On the other hand, the Citroen C4 is still young, and it is too early to draw real conclusions. Nevertheless, if you get rid of prejudices, then C4 will be a justified choice. It will only disappoint fans of dynamic driving, because even the most powerful version with 1.6 THP does not impress with either performance or behavior. Strengths- excellent finishes, aesthetic and spacious interior.

Specifications Citroen C4 II (B71 / 2010-2018)

Faster, even faster. C4 is screwed into a gentle ninety-degree arc at a speed of about 120 km / h, as if inciting to check the limit of grip properties of rubber. It is felt that the characteristics of the suspensions, as well as powerful brakes, are designed not just for the potential of a 120-horsepower engine, but with a large margin.

I slow down, put the automatic transmission into normal Drive mode and increase the pace again. A few minutes later, after a series of intense acceleration and deceleration, comes the awareness of the symbolism of the S button on the automatic transmission selector panel. In normal mode, the car accelerates in exactly the same way as in sports mode. Can't feel the difference.

Perhaps enough sprints for today. And we postpone discussions about the motor, gearbox and acceleration until tomorrow.

Day three

Thursday, 8:00 am. Freshly. I jump into the cozy C4 and immediately crank the heated seats to the max. Yeah, here are the traces of unification inside model range PSA concern. The heating intensity adjustment rollers and door handles are exactly the same as on Peugeot cars. The orange color of instrument illumination is another feature that unites the models of the two "allies" in the alliance. Although in top version C4, Exclusive, the backlight can still be changed from white to blue.

Here is the turn to the Yaroslavl highway, along which the main part of the way from my house to the office passes. It will take about an hour to drive along it, just enough to once again check the acceleration and evaluate the operation of the engine and transmission of the French hatchback.

But first, a few words about fuel consumption. For three days of operation, which combined both out-of-town driving and standing in traffic jams, the average consumption of C4 was about 9.5 liters of fuel per hundred kilometers. Two liters more than the brochure says.

Due to the high compression ratio of 11, the four-cylinder EP6 engine with a volume of 1.6 liters can only be “fed” with gasoline with an octane rating of at least 95. The power unit was designed in collaboration with the BMW concern (which uses it in its MINI cars), therefore, the variable valve timing and valve lift system Variable Valve Lift and Timing injection (abbreviated as VTi) is used in the gas distribution mechanism, structurally similar to the Valvetronic system of a Bavarian company. This mechanism allows you to get rid of throttle valve, thereby reducing inlet hydrodynamic losses and making the mixture formation process even more precise. The engine complies with Euro-V environmental standards, but at the same time it willingly spins up to high speed and features a smooth increase in power and torque.

Engine power is 120 hp at 6000 rpm and torque is 160 Nm at 4250 rpm

As noted earlier, in the first two gears, the car accelerates very briskly, if not aggressively, but ... From about 60 km / h, as soon as the “automatic” shifts to third or fourth gear, a pessimistic thoughtfulness appears in its work, strongly affecting the acceleration dynamics. In the city and on suburban highways, this is not very noticeable. City traffic rarely allows you to accelerate from high speeds, and on the highway you can pick up a certain pace and calmly maintain it. But outside the city, with high-speed overtaking on two-lane roads, you feel the lack of dynamics very sharply. You change lanes to the left, press the pedal to the floor ... and wait. A second, two, three - doubts about the safety of the maneuver being performed are already creeping in - and then at last the car begins to somehow overtake passing vehicles. The French claim that the passport acceleration time from 0 to 100 km / h is 12.5 seconds. According to my own feelings, and according to the measurements of colleagues in automotive research, C4 accelerates to “hundreds” for another two seconds longer. But the most critical thing is that the car also spends about 10 seconds to accelerate from 80 to 120 km / h. Seem to be, real consumption fuel exceeded the passport precisely because of the box, forcing the driver to press the gas pedal to the stop more often and sharper.

When budget car the use of the old four-speed automatic can still be explained by the desire to keep the price at a competitively low level. But in the case of the test C4, many systems of which are clearly designed for a higher dynamic potential, the meaning of using this “thoughtful” AT8 box raises considerable doubts. By the way, AT8 is nothing more, nothing less than a modernized version of the old "machine" AL4. The changes affected the valve body and the control program, as well as the torque converter - now it is new, from the German company ZF. All this was designed to increase the reliability of the "machine". Let's see how the six-speed "robot" Aisin will react to the gas pedal, installed on the diesel version of the C4 E-HDi, the test of which will soon appear on the pages of our portal, as well as on the version with a 1.6 THP supercharged engine, available only to Europeans.

Fourth day

Previously, Citroen produced cars with avant-garde design and technical solutions that were ahead of their time. Once upon a time, the French were among the first to use diesel engines, hydropneumatic suspension, hydraulic power steering, disc brakes, swivel headlights ... The era of unification and cost reduction dictates its own rules, and now Citroen is releasing solid European hatchbacks, designed with cold calculation according to all the canons of modern automotive industry. This approach helps to make a product that will appeal to and meet the requirements of the widest possible audience of consumers. But there is also a side effect - C4 has lost its uniqueness.

It's warm outside, plus 20, we, together with the "fourth" smoothly roll along the boulevard towards the Citroen office. It is a pity to part with the French hatchback. As soon as the driver “switches” to a calm and neat “European” driving mode, C4 generates only positive emotions.

14.09.2016

Citroen C4 is one of the most popular french cars, which has become quite widespread in our market. The most common is a five-door hatchback body, a three-door version is also available, which attracts the younger generation more with its bright design, and a sedan. The reliability of used Citroëns raises many questions among many car enthusiasts, and today we will try to find out what surprises a used Citroen C4 can bring, and what to pay attention to when choosing this car.

In 2004, the premiere of a new model called C4 took place, which replaced the " C ITROEN Xsara. In July 2008, the company carried out a restyling, as a result of which the car received cosmetic changes in appearance, new equipment options, and two new gasoline engines appeared in the range of engines. In the fall of 2010, sales of the new Citroen C4 started, at first glance you can’t say that the car was built on the platform of the previous generation, it has changed so significantly appearance. The former Citroen was one of the most compact, and the heir has grown noticeably, but at the same time the chassis and power units remained the same.

Advantages and disadvantages of Citroen C4 with mileage

The vast majority of cars on the secondary market are equipped with gasoline engines, but sometimes there are diesel versions. In the line of gasoline engines there are frankly weak units 1.4 (90 hp) and 1.6 (110, 120 and 150 hp), and a more powerful two-liter engine (136, 144 and 180 hp), as well as diesel engines with a volume of 1.6 (92 and 110 hp) and 2.0 (138 and 150 hp). The motors of the French manufacturer are very sensitive to fuel quality, and if not used quality gasoline, then the engine will quickly become clogged. The service life of the candles is also significantly reduced, it is worth noting that the Citroën is not one of those cars on which absolutely any candles can be installed. There have been cases when, due to the use of bad fuel, carbon deposits formed on the valves after 50 - 60 thousand km. There is also a possible drop in compression with a low mileage, as a result, the car will lose power, and the speed will constantly float at the twentieth. Therefore, before buying a Citroen C4 with mileage, it is imperative to make a diagnosis and measure the compression.

For cars with a 1.6 engine, after 100,000 km of run, the thermostat fails, as a result, antifreeze flows out and the engine overheats. Also, after 100 thousand km, you will have to change the ignition coils and the cooling system pump. Almost all motors have a timing belt drive, which needs to be changed every 60,000 km. Otherwise, French-made gasoline engines are reliable, and diesel engines are considered among the best, and rarely surprises.

Transmission

The Citroen C4 was equipped with a five-speed manual gearbox and a four-speed automatic. If about motors, subject to refueling with good fuel, we can say that there are no special problems with them, then automatic transmission considered the weak point of the car. The automatic transmission was developed by the PSA Peugeot-Citroën concern together with Renault, and all the problems that arise with this box are associated with pressure-distributing valves. If you buy a car with a mileage of 100,000 km or more, and the machine has not yet been repaired, you can be sure that you will get an expensive repair. To extend the life of this node, you need to ensure that the box does not overheat (slippage and prolonged movement in traffic jams in the heat are contraindicated).

The clutch of cars on the mechanics is quite reliable and runs 110 - 120 thousand kilometers. In rare cases, on a run of 50 - 60 thousand km, it fails release bearing, and if such a problem happened, then as a rule, the owners changed it along with the clutch. As for switching mechanical transmission, then if you suddenly hear a crunch when switching, then most likely the problem is in the synchronizers.

Driving performance Citroen C4

The suspension of the Citroen C4 is simple, a standard MacPherson strut is installed in the front, and a semi-independent beam in the back. Shock absorbers are also common, which should delight used car buyers. The average service life of shock absorbers, wheel bearings, ball bearings, CV joints is 80 - 90 thousand km, but stabilizer struts and tie rods turn into consumables on our roads, their resource is no more than 40,000 km. AT rear suspension knocks appear earlier than in the front, since silent blocks are a weak point here, which fail at a run of 30 - 40 thousand km. The shock boot can also knock, which walks up and down the stem.

The car is equipped with an electro-hydraulic power steering. The hydraulic pump can leak through the chip to which the power cable fits, and in case of replacement, you will have to reconfigure the electronic unit management.

Body and interior

The body of the Citroen C4 is not prone to corrosion, and the first blisters paintwork can be seen on a 7 - 8 year old car, and even then not always. But the metal here is light and soft, so dents appear quickly enough.

The build quality of the interior, given the class of the car, is quite good, and finishing materials also deserve praise. Owners of cars from the first years of production complain that crickets appear quite quickly in the Citroen C4 cabin. The manufacturer reacted responsibly to these comments and this problem was completely eliminated on the machines of the last years of production. In terms of electrics, most French cars with our realities and climate are not doing as well as we would like, and this car is no exception. Everything is complicated by the fact that in cold and damp weather you observe a failure in the electronics, and as soon as you call in a warm and dry car service box, everything starts to work properly.

Outcome:

Citroen C4 with mileage depreciates quickly enough, and this is not without reason, since already by a hundred thousand mileage a car can throw up big troubles. The first of these will automatic transmission, and even if we consider the option only with mechanics, then problems with the electrician still cannot be avoided. The suspension is not bad, but it’s hard to call it a model of reliability. If we conclude, in general, then this car can only be bought with mechanical box, and after professional diagnostics.

Advantages:

• Exterior and interior.
• The quality of interior finishing materials.
• Good soundproofing.
• Low fuel consumption.
• Security.
• Comfortable soft suspension.

Disadvantages:

• soft metal
• Automatic transmission.
• Electrical problems.
• Many service stations refuse to take the car for repairs.
• Depreciates quickly.

If you are or have been the owner of this brand of car, please share your experience, indicating the strengths and weaknesses of the car. Perhaps it is your review that will help others correctly.

➖ Incorrectly working rain sensor
➖ Ergonomics
➖ Light

pros

➕ Comfortable interior
➕ Economy
➕ Design

Advantages and disadvantages of Citroen C4 sedan 2018-2019 in a new body identified based on reviews real owners. More detailed benefits and cons Citroen C4 Sedan 1.6 gasoline and diesel with mechanics and automatic can be found in the stories below:

Owner reviews

The design of the C4 sedan undoubtedly distinguishes it from the general stream. Comfortable inside. Ergonomically arranged switches and other buttons. Plenty of space in the back seat, big trunk.

Pleased with heating windshield. Very comfortable climate — a lot of settings. There is a bluetooth headset for the phone. The windshield wiper works properly in the "auto" mode.

Fuel consumption is 30-50 percent higher than stated. Bad light - for this class of car, xenon should be in the base. The indicators of the remaining mileage before refueling are not relevant in principle, and there is no indication of the remaining fuel in liters.

Inconveniently located switches for heating the front seats. It happens that you accidentally turn on the heating, but there is no indication. Handling on the track — bad. On a wet road and snowy "porridge" you have to "catch" a car. This is perhaps the biggest minus, which covers all the pluses.

Alexander Nikolaenko, drives Citroen C4 1.6 (120 hp) AT 2014

Video review

Citroen C4 sedan - great car. There are claims, but it’s even more of a nit-picking, because there’s nothing to get to the bottom of, by and large. If you're thinking of taking it, don't even think about it. Makes competitors at once.

Huge salon. Awesome engine, no turbo lag. Very quiet and comfortable front and rear for the C class.

Of the shortcomings — a very large steering wheel. Constantly dirty right leg, because the automatic and steer is so easy that right hand by itself, lie down on the right leg and dirt forms on the trouser leg. And both at a speed of 40 km / h, and at a speed of 130 km / h. In general, despite the armrest, you need a place for the right hand.

The owner drives a Citroen C4 1.6 (150 hp) on a 2014 automatic

The engine power is enough and the car is quite nimble, but it requires a quick gear change, I constantly drive in 4-5 gear in the city (while the consumption is 8.4-8.5 at average speed 27 km/h).

Of the minuses - a bad review on the right! Pretty tight shift knob. Rigid suspension. I was very surprised by the lack of an indicator of engine temperature ... How is it? You stand in a traffic jam and wonder what the temperature is there ...

V. Karpov, drives a Citroen C4 1.6 (116 hp) MT 2014

Shumka great, super patency! In winter, I climbed in those places where crossovers did not meddle. Shift into first gear, release the clutch, and she pulls out!

For a year and a half, not a single cricket! I read the reviews of other owners of the Citroen C4 and wonder if I was lucky. At least, I have not heard a single bad word about the car from any owner of the C4 when meeting in my life.

The car is economical, I went in the heat with air conditioning and an average speed of 120 km / h, the computer showed only 6.8 liters per 100 km. In winter, at -35, it started up from one time and it was hot in the cabin.

Alexander Blinov, review of the Citroen C4 Sedan 1.6 (116 hp) on the mechanics of 2013

When I drove the car (about 1,100 km), I naturally compared it with the sold Focus.

Citroen Pros:
— softer suspension;
— ESP system works more delicately and inconspicuously;
— Comfortable climate (Focus was air-conditioned);
- Consumption is lower, by about 1.5-2 liters.

Cons of Citroen:
— for a long time I could not find the optimal driving position, and after it seemed to me that I had found it, after 300-400 kilometers, my knees began to hurt, which I had never felt in previous cars;
- the spouse also cannot find the optimal location and noticed that the clutch and brake pedals are much higher than the gas pedal;
— I do not feel the trunk, but not critical, as there are parking sensors.

The owner drives a Citroen Ce4 1.6 sedan (116 hp) MT 2016.

Beautiful in appearance, a lot of things heaped up in my configuration. The seats are the bomb! I like music, excellent quality bluetooth, rear view camera, parking sensors in a circle, blind spot monitoring. Large, roomy interior and trunk.

The mirror link does not work, navigation without traffic jams is useless, turning on the heated seats is terribly inconvenient, especially with nails ... The rain sensor is thoughtful, I'm used to being more sensitive. The rear wiper is missing, in all other cars it was ...

Feedback about new Citroen C4 sedan 1.6 (150 hp) with automatic 2017

The first 2,000 km flew in less than a month, I often rode to the dacha.

Pros:
1. Light and rain sensor, turned on and forgot. Works by itself.
2. Heated priests, quickly. Enough to turn on for 5 minutes at +5 on the street.
3. Climate. To stand to warm up the car in order to keep it warm, I did not see the joke. The first 5 minutes in motion and a comfortable temperature in the car.
4. Cruise and limiter. Played for a week, but when driving around the city are absolutely useless. For trips on the highway far — I liked it.
5. Horsepower. If the car carries me one or two, then more than enough. When landing in 3-4 people, acceleration can no longer be called dynamic, but at 130-140 km / h the engine does not yell and rides quite well.
6. There are no crickets, the plastic is super soft.

It's hard to say about the cons. At first, there were super sensitive brakes, but after 1,500 km it passed. The rain sensor seems to be a little dull, I don’t always like how the wipers work in automatic mode.

Upset the trip to the dealership to turn on the can-bus to make friends with the signaling. Time, and even 2,000 rubles. have taken.

Fuel consumption is still difficult to pinpoint. If on the highway, then in the region of 7-8 liters. On the way to and from work — a solid traffic jam, and consumption in the region of 11 liters (it would be more correct to add that 23 km in 2 hours).

Review of Citroen C4 1.6 (116 hp) mechanics 2017