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Taganrog car factory(TagAZ) is a car assembly plant located in the city of Taganrog (Rostov region of Russia). Affiliated enterprise JSC "Taganrog Combine Plant".

Specifications and design

Tagaz Vortex Estina FL-C - Russian a car class C, produced by TagAZ, which is an exact copy of Chery A5. On this vehicle engines marked SQR481F and SQR484F were installed. The SQR477F motor was not presented on the domestic market.

SQR481F Motor Specifications:

Service

Maintenance of the SQR481F and SQR484F power package is standard. The service interval, according to the manufacturer's standards, is 15,000 km. To preserve the life of the motor, it is recommended to carry out the procedure for changing the oil and filter every 10,000 km.

Faults and repairs

Like all powertrains, the SQR481F has a number of flaws that appear throughout the entire production line. Let's consider the main ones:

Motor Tagaz Vortex Estina FL-C.

  • Increased oil consumption. The malfunction begins to occur at a large depletion of the resource (approximately 200,000 km). Solved by replacing the oil scraper rings.
  • Vibration. There are two options for the problem - a pillow malfunction or an increase in idle speed.
  • High or floating speed. Throttle valve problem.
  • Difficult starting of the engine. The problem lies in the fuel pump or simply filled with candles.

Conclusion

The Tagaz Vortex Estina FL-C engine is quite powerful and reliable power unit manufactured by Mitsubishi Motors. He loves high-quality parts and consumables, and is quite picky about fuel. Maintenance is recommended every 10,000 km.

Tagaz Vortex Estina is a car produced at the plant in Taganrog until 2014. It was 14 that was the final year not only for this model, but for the entire automobile plant. But, nevertheless, the concern managed to carry out a large-scale modernization of the car in 2012, which led to the appearance of a new appearance, a redesigned interior, and most importantly, they made significant improvements in terms of modernizing equipment by providing a new engine.

Learn more about character new generation, will help test drive Vortex Estina, as well as attached at the end Vortex review Estina some reviews.

If you wonder where such a design came from, whether it is your own development or not, you should first determine which country the manufacturer originally released this model. And this is China, which most likely copied this model from some other Asian car, slightly reshaping the image.

In principle, if we consider only the changes that have affected the restyling process, we can conclude that domestic designers managed to create an almost unique car. Bright appearance, modern trends in automotive culture.

Well-thought-out headlights, in a layout with a grille, involuntarily resemble Mercedes models. And the bumper does its share, transforming the car in style more sports sedans. Characteristic body kit, underlined by an aggressive air intake.

In the side part, how strange it is, but the former style is completely lost. Here, on the contrary, calmness, everyday life, barely noticeable stampings, and wheel arches almost do not look out at all.

Korma again transforms the car and refers to the premium class. Really nice lights, accentuated by a trunk lid with small stampings imitating a spoiler. They preferred to make the bumper monolithic, without visible squiggles. A single platform that lacks something, perhaps an additional body kit.

Interior

The image inside the Tagaz Vortex Estina seems to be quite successful, the quality of the materials is a little let down, but in principle a rather pleasant interior. Pleases with its functionality, ergonomics, rigor inherent in solid cars. In the Astin modification, Vortex managed to create not only a pleasant appearance, but also comfortable chairs, which also survived the modernization phase.

The speedometer panel is formed through the classic "wells" supplemented with a small on-board computer. Disappointed steering column, too simple look, wretched design, which does not fit this car in any way.

The center console has one small radio as standard, around which a couple of deflectors fit. From below, we managed to place the “climate” block, with pleasant controls. And in general, if you look at the design, there is some association with modern Wests.

We were pleased with the seats, even in comparison with the predecessor Vortex Estina A21, much more significant processing. First of all, the ergonomics of the front seats have been improved, plus adjustments have been added. There is plenty of space for the rear riders, if the protruding tunnel previously interfered, now there are no problems with this, everything is quite comfortable and spacious.

Specifications

With the new Tagaz Vortex update, Estina also came with the latest gasoline engine, which replaced the long-outdated modification of the old Japanese unit. New motor, as they say, still in oil, only from the assembly line, with a volume of 1.5 liters. it is capable of generating 109 hp. and produce 140 Nm. moment, which is not bad enough for such a modification.

As far as it is technically thought out, little is known, but given the "Japanese" origin, repair and related problems, as if replacing the timing belt or thermostat should not cause concern. In general, modifications of such motors are quite productive, tenacious, with the exception that the oil consumption has increased slightly compared to its predecessor, but all because of the design itself.

By the way, several Tagaz Vortex Estina models are known for which tuning was carried out, it is interesting that in addition to tuning improvements in engine performance, a body kit was also expected to be a kind of tuning.

In appearance, it honestly did not look very respectable, but according to the owner, it further improved aerodynamics. When a crash test was carried out for the Vortex Estina, an amusing moment occurred, after analyzing the consequences, it turned out that the belt remained intact, which could not but rejoice, given the performance of similar cars in the class.

The technical characteristics of the Tagaz Vortex Estina did not receive a noticeable update, as already mentioned, the changes affected only the power unit, even the gearbox remained the same, this is a 5-speed “mechanics”. There is nothing new in the suspension and the entire “bogie”, the structure is MacPherson in front, there are “a lot of levers” in the back without significant differences, with the exception of self-installed tuning packages with reinforced shock absorbers or springs. In terms of electronics, nothing is mentioned of the innovations either, two standard assistants and an old hydraulic booster.

Options and prices

Now for the Estina model, the price is formed only on the basis of the condition of the car, after all, the youngest model is now at least three years old. On the secondary market Tagaz Vortex Estina did not have distribution, it is difficult to judge what this is connected with. But according to the analysis of car sites, we can conclude that on average they want to get about 300,000 rubles per car.

Considering that only one set was produced, and the level of its equipment is not bad enough, the cost is justified. For the “base” they offered a couple of pillows, a hydraulic booster, power windows, a couple of assistants, air conditioning, seat heating, audio preparation, fog lights, a drive for mirrors, as well as their heating, but the “chic” of that time and this particular price category is the presence of parking sensors.

There are, of course, some tuning instances, but judging by the responses, it’s better for Estin not to mess with such options. The price, firstly, is more expensive, and secondly, they are all twisted, spare parts are not native, some are not analogues, there are many problems with them.

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Chery Fora / Vortex Estina. Knocking when the engine is warm idle move

Cause of malfunction Remedy
Loose or worn drive belts auxiliary units Adjust belt tension or replace
Noise of parts of the gas distribution mechanism See fault "Increased noise of the gas distribution mechanism"
Using the wrong brand of oil Change the oil to the one recommended by the car manufacturer
Increased clearances between piston pins and bores in piston bosses Replace pistons and pins
Increased clearances between crankpins crankshaft and liners Replace bushings and grind necks
The axes of the upper and lower connecting rod heads are not parallel Replace connecting rod

Diagnostics

Knocking in the engine idling fairly easy to diagnose. It is enough to listen to the motor with a stethoscope. So you can accurately determine the source of the sound, and then carry out work to establish the cause of the malfunction and eliminate it. It is advisable to listen to the motor in different operating modes. After all, different knocks manifest themselves differently at different speeds. This will also allow you to more accurately identify the problem.

valve

The most common knock that occurs at idle is valve tapping. At the same time, the sound is practically not observed when high revs. What happens due to the higher noise level emitted by the engine. The problem, in this case, lies in the incorrect adjustment of the valves. It is not worth delaying the elimination of the cause. Increased clearance leads to increased wear of the gas distribution mechanism.

Depending on the characteristics of the engine, adjustment can be carried out either by preloading the rockers or by replacing the washers. On the “nines”, a knock may indicate wear on the cylinder head glasses. On the driving performance this does not affect, but the problem cannot be fixed. It has to do with tightening the valve adjustments.

hydraulic lifters

All drivers know that engines equipped with hydraulic lifters knock after starting. It goes away after it warms up. If the knocking is prolonged, and is only heard when idling, this is a sign of a lack of oil. Check the oil level in the crankcase. If necessary, add oil to the correct mark. If the problem is not low lubrication, then check the oil pump. It may be defective. In this case, at idle, it simply does not supply the cylinder head with oil.

Because of this, hydraulic lifters knock, which require a certain oil pressure in the system to work. In any case, fix the problem, because lack of lubrication leads to increased wear of the cylinder head parts.

Piston

When the piston is worn, knocking may also be observed. When listening, it can be found in the middle part of the cylinder. Moreover, the knock will be observed only at idle and slightly higher. At rpms above 2000 it will not. This happens for the following reasons. The piston is developed evenly. However, the upper is more snug anyway, held in place by compression rings that expand as needed. When running at low speeds, the skirt of a worn piston fluctuates. After a set of revolutions, it stabilizes, and the knock disappears.

When such a problem occurs, it is inevitable overhaul engine. Of course, only pistons can be replaced. But, for greater reliability, the crankshaft liners should be replaced and polished. Otherwise, there is a risk of crankshaft jamming in the future.

connecting rod. Sometimes a connecting rod can be the cause of a knock. Or rather, his bushing. In fact (in this case) the knock will be at any speed. But, it will be well heard only at idle or when braking by the engine. In other cases, it can be heard only by listening to the unit.
Repair is almost the same as in the case of pistons. And do not delay the repair. The consequence of a broken sleeve is usually a “fist of friendship”. That is, a connecting rod punches a hole in the cylinder block.

Other reasons. Sometimes, knocking can appear for other reasons. Knocking at idle can indicate bearing wear. camshaft. The sound is rather muffled. It can come from the front or back of the engine. Often, a pump bearing problem is mistaken for a camshaft knock. This is due to the close location of these parts. If the pump fails, the engine starts to overheat.

Conclusion. The engine is the heart of the car. Therefore, any problems with it should be fixed as quickly as possible. Knocking in the engine at idle, in most cases, is a sign of a malfunction. Timely identification of the source of noise will allow you to eliminate the breakdown as quickly and at a minimum cost. Neglecting this symptom can lead to more serious problems.

Chery Fora debuted in 2006. Fora is the name of the version for Russian market. At home, the model was called A5. From 2007 to 2008, the car was produced in Kaliningrad, and from 2008 to 2014 - in Taganrog, where it received the designation Vortex Estina.

Chery Fora was offered only as a sedan. The car looks quite modern and attractive. The quality of finishing materials, although not the best, is an order of magnitude higher than that of compatriots of that time. Salon Chinese quite spacious. The rear sofa, although designed for three, will comfortably accommodate only two.

Basic versions had good equipment: ABS with EBD, power steering, central locking, power windows and air conditioning. Airbags and parking sensors required surcharge.

Engine

The secondary market is dominated by Chery Fora, equipped with two gasoline engines: 1.6 l / 119 hp. and 2.0 l / 129 hp This is Chery engines ACTECO family, developed jointly with the Austrian company AVL. They are equipped with a belt-type timing drive and hydraulic valve lifters. In the power range, two more units are provided - with a volume of 1.5 and 1.8 liters. But they are very rare.

Unfortunately, motors do not guarantee carefree operation due to the poor quality of components. So, some owners were faced with a broken timing belt - the consequences of jamming tension roller. Valves meet pistons. Good luck, if only it will bend the valves. Then the repair will require about 25-30 thousand rubles.

Some, already after 100,000 km, went to the service due to a broken connecting rod, destruction of the piston, wear of the crankshaft or its thrust rings. During the recovery process, another problem is discovered - a large number of low-quality fakes. The main thing is not to save money, otherwise repeated engine repairs are inevitable. However, most often the need for capital arises after 250-300 thousand km.

Many in case of problems prefer to purchase contract engine. And some owners of cars with a 1.6-liter unit install a 2-liter engine. Fortunately, for this there is no need to redo something. In addition, the stock board quickly finds common ground with the larger engine.

Frequent and interruptions in the operation of the motor. Often the crankcase gas recirculation valve and the absorber valve are to blame. Engine mounts can wear out after 70-120 thousand km, and the catalyst - after 150-200 thousand km.

Sometimes the head gasket leaks or the cooling fan fails. The motor does not tolerate overheating. As a result, the head of the block may burst. The cost of a new cylinder head is 52,000 rubles.

Transmission

For Chery Fora, only one box is provided - 5-speed mechanics. Owners often complain about difficulty shifting gears. During operation, one has to deal with a break in the cable of the gear selection mechanism, leakage of drive seals and premature wear of bearings. Extra care must be taken when twisting drain plug. If you overdo it, the box body may burst.

The clutch serves more than 150-200 thousand km, but the hydraulic release bearing can give up after 100-150 thousand km. The cost of a new clutch release is 2,000 rubles, and a complete clutch kit is about 15,000 rubles.

Chassis

Fora has independent suspension on both axles: MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear. Running comfortable can not be called. On the waves, the body sways, and on small bumps, information about the state of the roadway is transmitted in detail.

Chery Fora's suspension is similar in design to the Mitsubishi Lancer IX. They have interchangeable parts: levers, shock absorbers, springs. The resource of the original Chinese suspension elements is low, especially on the front axle. So, silent blocks, ball bearings, shock absorbers and wheel bearings wear out after 60-100 thousand km.

The power steering pump may make noise after 50-100 thousand km. It's all about the bearings. The cost of a new pump is about 5,000 rubles. steering rack often needs repair after 80-120 thousand km. A knock appears, or a leak of the upper stuffing box is detected. A repair kit is available for 2,000 rubles, and a new rail for 10,000 rubles.

Closer to 100,000 km, brake hoses and pipes require attention. After 100,000 km on bumps, due to the wear of the guides, the front calipers may knock. And after 150,000 km, the rear calipers begin to wedge. Pad wear sensors often fail.

SHRUS anthers can break after 60-100 thousand km. Soon the CV joints themselves fail.

Typical problems and malfunctions

The first pockets of corrosion can be found on the wheel arches, and sometimes inside the trunk. The latter is facilitated by the ingress of water through the leaky seals of the rear lights.

The chrome on the door moldings and the gear knob, as well as the paint on the steering wheel, as a rule, peeled off after 30-40 thousand km.

The alternator may require attention after 150,000 km. You have to change bearings, a voltage regulator relay or a worn brush assembly (about 5,000 rubles).

Interior cooling problems are often caused by cracks in the air conditioner radiator or pipes. In addition, sometimes the resistor in the climate control control unit burns out.

In the cold season, many owners note the low efficiency of the heating system. One of the reasons is poor design. The other is jamming air damper(about 2300 rubles).

Conclusion

There was no surprise. For an attractive price tag, you have to pay with time, nerves and money.

driving effect this car can be compared with driving the "Volga" - the same barge! But, unlike the latter, the road keeps at any speed - "washboard" for nothing. Spacious interior and a huge trunk. Gasoline consumption does not change at all - whether you are traveling alone, or with a full set of passengers, plus with an air conditioner - it's still a dozen. Advantages of the car: Manageability.

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Vortex Estina, 2009

Stable on the road, comfortable seats - long-distance trips do not tire, high seating position, thanks to the large ground clearance. The car has a higher cross-country ability, a wide interior, a roomy trunk, good review rearview mirrors. Soft shifting. Parts and maintenance are not expensive. I like the car.

Vortex Estina, 2010

I won't say much! The car is just the bomb! Did not expect for such a price! Even with our Volga can not be compared, comfortable, holds the road, and in general everything is included! The only thing is that the torpedo could be softer (plastic). I went to Rostov twice, the money was spent only on gasoline, before trips I only checked the oil, antifreeze, omyvayku and stretched out the wheels. In general 5+.

Vortex Estina, 2009

My name is Sergey, 29 years old. In December 2009 bought a car Vortex Estin, engine 1.6 MT, traveled 76,000 km. Changed during this time the timing belt, drive, brake pads. Some in the reviews write that the front pillars, rear shock absorbers weak. Nothing like that, you can drive through the pits like on a springboard, even the tractor will not endure this. I had VAZ cars, of course, they are like a tarantass. Why they shy away from Chinese-made cars - I don’t understand. I had a BMW 525, a Toyota Avensis, a Volsfagen Passat, you'll see - all these cars are standing near a service station, nothing is eternal. Spare parts for Chinese-made cars are not expensive and are available.

Vortex Estina, 2010

Vortex Estina is my 12th car. I am a professional serviceman (mechanic). There were Boomers, and Audis, and Toyotas, and Fords, not counting our Tazov. Of all the above machines - this car is a song. There are minor flaws in terms of Shumkov and cheap plastic. The rest is a little money to invest (replacing the racks definitely, put multimedia, camera reversing, make Shumkov, put devyatochny amor. tailgate on the trunk for automatic opening and that's it ... you will be happy for little money). I can't compare snow performance with any other car. Rushing like a tank. In the salon "Africa". The stove works at 1, even in 25-degree frost. Good luck to all.

Vortex Estina, 2010

The car is excellent, bought in 2012 from a dealer, 2010, worth 339 tr. with discount. Dead accumulator. and three scratches on the body. For all the time of the ride, the front bearing buzzed. Hub, replaced by a cost of 2800 rubles, made Shumkov, replaced the music, oil, polished. Now the car is standing, some kind of haivan from the traumatist fired at my car, it is necessary to change the windshield and there are dents on the hood, there are no holes! That's what surprised me, even the paint did not burst, and the Lexus, which was standing nearby, had holes in the doors, roof, hood, windows ...